test-drb July 2000

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by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

For the 2nd time this week I've managed to delete the location all the list messages end up. For some reason when you've finished reading a message and you delete it sometimes Outlook will have focus on the FOLDER and not the message. Of course, its partially my fault for always doing permanent deletes, but if you're going to delete a folder with unread messages in it I think it should tell you! So, if you've sent any answers to my questions last night, particularly Tony, and you've still got them can you resend please......Grrr.... -- Adrian Graham MCSE/ASE/MCP C CAT Limited Gubbins: http://www.ccat.co.uk (work) <http://www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk> (home) <http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk> (80's computer collection) "Missing you already" - Mark Radcliffe

26 years, 1 month

Repair or Replace? [Was: Repairing Timex]

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

> > putting out *a* voltage but can't deduce from the readout > *what* voltage. > > Eh? This was taught in schools in my day :-)... My school wouldn't let me do electronics because I didn't have a maths o'level :( They wouldn't accept my argument that all an exam proved was you could remember what was in the text books. Nothing to stop me looking anything up I needed? Ta for the tutorial - I'll compare it to my meter tonight! a

26 years, 1 month

The Apple ][c+ lives!

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

> > with a new carrier (in case of accidents) and a new fuse. > Of course, she's > > You were lucky! :-) I know! > lock to either 50Hz or 60Hz with a tweak of the vertical hold > control. I thought that; the monitor I used was a Monitor ///. The vertical hold control couldn't get a steady picture. I've got a Monitor // and a couple of small Philips monitors I use on a QL that might work. > Some later model TVs are actually designed to handle both > 50Hz (PAL) and > 60Hz (NTSC) signals so you can watch American recordings, etc. The next TV I buy will have that feature; mine's around 6 years old now, right from the beginning of NICAM broadcasts. cheers a

26 years, 1 month

While we're talking about Lisas

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

> That's actually not the major hazard. It's well insulated, and unless > it's defective, it won't flash over. The main problem is the > few hundred volts on tracks on the monitor analogue board. Painful if you > touch them to say the least. That's why the bloke that gave me the things to check recommended I solder on some flyleads to the components I need to check; a lot less risk of zappage and I can put the ends into a terminal block for ease of testing. a

26 years, 1 month

Repair or Replace? [Was: Repairing Timex]

by CLASSICCMP＠enterprise.trailing-edge.com

>> Incidentally, an analogue multimeter can be more use than a >> digital one >> for some work. It's a lot better at showing trends, >> indicating when the >> amplitude of a signal is peaking, etc. Accuracy is not that >> important in >> most repairs -- certainly +/-5% is easily good enough for most work. >Yes, but the cheapie one I bought for work hasn't got the clearest readout >on the planet :) And I don't think it survived a 1 foot drop onto a wooden >floor despite being encased in a smart rubber coat! The one thing I've never >been able to do is read voltages from one - I can see that my transformer is >putting out *a* voltage but can't deduce from the readout *what* voltage. >Inexperience showing thru there. It's like the difference between analogue >and digital watches I suppose. Earth - a planet so backwards they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea. I personally don't see what's so inaccurate about analog watches. I can easily read mine to a precision of one second, which is one part in 12*60*60. And that's just a regular watch; there are plenty of analog stopwatches out there that will time to a hundredth of a second, which (considering the human interface) is just fine. Tim.

26 years, 1 month

It's been awhile (hi, new stuff, help, apologies, et

by lgwalker＠look.ca

On 19 Jul 2000, at 17:09, Mark Tapley wrote: > Mike, > > >I won a lot at the auction for $15. Under the pile was a 1988 NeXT Cube = > >(fist year of production after six years of umm, development), matching = > >NeXT laser printer, and keyboard, and mouse. Trading the rest of the = > >cart off got me also a 21" radius monster for free that I niavely hoped = > >I'd be able to use with the Cube. > > Cha-ching! Nice score. > Turning green with envy. I only have a color W-S > >I rushed home with my new MegaPixel, fondiling it along the way, and = > >immediately hooked everyting up. Power! ...Well, it boots. I get to = > >the NeXT rom monitor ver 1 rel 46 and can exercise the machine from = > >there. It doesn't have the floptical in it and a 'b sd' boot command = > >returns a read capacity error on the scsi hard disk. With the rom = > >monitor I can boot to an ethernet attress or scsi target. Is there = > >anyway I can get a disk image of ole NeXTStep on a compatible scsi drive = > >and can I use something like an Apple scsi CD-ROM with it? > > You can use an Apple CD-ROM, my cube works fine with an Apple 300 external. > Reputedly you can even use an AppleCD 150 SNIP > Alternately, hit http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n70038 and > surf from there; Apple was upgrading for free to NS 3.3 for any existing > machine. (I'd do this anyway if I were you, just to get a current copy of > the OS, whether you want to keep the machine original or not.) You'll get a > CD. It is possible to load from CD, but I think you need either a floppy or > an optical to start the boot process (but I'm not clear on that). There are > then patches to put atop that...depends on whether you want original > NeXTStep or current NeXTStep. > Apple supplied a couple of floppies with the free upgrade. > Let me know... > - Mark > ciao larry lgwalker(a)look.ca walkers(a)altavista.net bigwalk(a)xoommail.com

26 years, 1 month

No subject

by lgwalker＠look.ca

26 years, 1 month

(Micro)VaxServer/Station 3100

by hofmanwb＠worldonline.nl

A good soul decided to give me a pile of 3100's. And I know not very much about Vaxes. So I started digging before I part with most of them. When booting a 3100 it tells you it is a KA41-2,KA41-A,B,D,E, KA42A or B, KA43-A or KA45-B I could not locate a proper list of what is what in 3100's. Lists I found were incomplete or contradictionary. Anyone? What I did find however was that in order to get from a KA41-D to a KA41-E you had to switch Eprom. A MicroVax 3100 turned into a VaxServer this way. A miracle. What consequences has such a switch for your software? Are you no longer allowed to do things? Does some software run and other software not? Although I have a number of VMS books, I could not locate how to make a chinese copy of a disk. It is nice to be able to go back after you tried something hazardous. Help will be appreciated!! Wim

26 years, 1 month

(Micro)VaxServer/Station 3100

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- "W.B.(Wim) Hofman" <hofmanwb(a)worldonline.nl> wrote: > What I did find however was that in order to get from a KA41-D to a KA41-E > you had to switch Eprom. A MicroVax 3100 turned into a VaxServer this way. > A miracle. What consequences has such a switch for your software? Are you > no longer allowed to do things? Does some software run and other software > not? I know that some stuff was written to check the model number and was user-limited to, for example, two for a "workstation" and either unlimited or less-limited for a "server". The idea was that you would pay less for a workstation license and so there should be some way to prevent customers >from buying the cheaper product and using it on a more "powerful" machine. Lots of products, third-party and DEC alike, were priced based on the capacity of your box. If you upgraded your CPU (adding extra CPUs, changing out a 6xxx for an 11/7xx, etc), you typically owed lots of people lots of extra money. I remember the phenomenon because our products were priced according to modem speed (sync modems) - a 9600 bps product was about 1/2 the cost of the 56Kbps product. Our customers loved the fact that we would let them pull a board from an 11/750 and drop it in an 8600 for no charge. Back to you original question - there's a call you can make from DCL that will tell you the type of CPU installed in your machine (It's an F$GETSYI call, far enough down in the OS). As a developer, you can easily build in code to refuse to operate on a "full VAX" or something similar, but that wasn't common. -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

26 years, 1 month

It's been awhile (hi, new stuff, help, apologies, etc...)

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

> Mike, > > >Is there anyway I can get a disk image of ole NeXTStep on a compatible > >scsi drive... I have a slab that I got for free a couple of years ago - mono monitor, mouse and keyboard included, 0K RAM, 0Mb disk (pre-scavenged). I've been wanting to get something running on this ever since I got it. > Alternately, hit http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n70038 and > surf from there; Apple was upgrading for free to NS 3.3 for any existing > machine. You'll get a CD. I went there and it all seems simple... > It is possible to load from CD, but I think you need either a floppy or > an optical to start the boot process (but I'm not clear on that). Is the boot floppy image available anywhere? I can migrate the 2.88Mb drive to my desktop, fire up Linux and just dd the info right to it (presuming I track down a source of 4Mb media). I've got lots of other toys to play with, but since this came up, I'd like to see what I can get running here. Thanks, -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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