I saw a small notebook computer called a Digital Ultra Note at the
recycling center. unfortunately, the guy who handles surplus sales
is gone for 2 weeks so i wasnt able to obtain it, but i'm curious
about it. My web searches return things that look more like laptop
computers than a thin notebook computer.
Can anyone tell me anything about this computer? does it even come with
a floppy drive, or are all peripherals external (this is a very thin
laptop, they had 2 stacks of laptops and this was at least 1/2 as thin
as the rest).
-Lawrence LeMay
The floppy drive is an external wedge that sits underneath the system.
There is a CD-ROM available for it as well as part of a multimedia expansion
tray that the notebook sits in, but you can't have both the floppy and the
CD connected at the same time.
Here's a link to DEC's timeline which includes a HiNote Ultra reference:
http://www.montagar.com/dfwcug/VMS_HTML/timeline/1994.htm
-- Tony
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> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Digital Ultra Note
>
> I saw a small notebook computer called a Digital Ultra Note at the
> recycling center. unfortunately, the guy who handles surplus sales
> is gone for 2 weeks so i wasnt able to obtain it, but i'm curious
> about it. My web searches return things that look more like laptop
> computers than a thin notebook computer.
>
> Can anyone tell me anything about this computer? does it even come with
> a floppy drive, or are all peripherals external (this is a very thin
> laptop, they had 2 stacks of laptops and this was at least 1/2 as thin
> as the rest).
>
> -Lawrence LeMay
>
I cant read the schematics of the M8655 on the various web sites, so i
cant see how to configure the card for baud rate and device codes, etc,
etc. The main console should be devices 03 and 04, if i recall correctly
>from 25 years ago...
Does anyone have this information in a text file, or a better quality scan
of the printset?
-Lawrence LeMay
--- Eric Smith <eric(a)brouhaha.com> wrote:
> Someone asked:
> > How can you tell about the original ROMs and 13 sector disk?
> > I'll bet Eric Smith knows this (as well as how to properly identify a
> > 13-sector disk controller...one clue is that it is missing the sticker
> > that has the Apple logo with a "16" inside, but that isn't a reliable
> > indicator).
>
> A 13-sector controller's PROMs are labelled P5 and P6, whereas a 16-sector
> controller has P5A and P6A.
>
> It is reasonable to upgrade a 13 sector controller to P5 with P6A. This
> retains the 13-sector boot code, but upgrades the state machine to be
> capable of reading 16-sector format. In my machine I had two controllers,
> one with P5 and P6A, the other with P5A and P6A. I would boot 13-sector
> disks from the former and 16-sector from the latter, but when 16-sector
> software was running, it could use all four drives.
Are the contents of the PROMs available anywhere for download? I happen
to have an ancient Data I/O programmer that will blow them and a *very*
limited supply of blanks (the COMBOARD-I used a pair of 256x8 PROMs for
boot ROMs) I wouldn't mind making a set of 13-sector PROMs.
-ethan
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At one ARC in Colorado Springs (prices in dollars in parenthesis):
VAXstation 2000 (6)
the TOPS-10 and TOPS-20 front end programs for the '11 in the system (3)
An HP-150 (which I am kicking myself for not buying even though it was a
year ago! 6)
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Umm, well once when my dad and I were moving some of my Perkin-Elmers, a
3210 decided it didn't want to stay on our tractor's forklift attachment...
and it left sideways, and guess who was standing nearby... I lept sideways
out of the way, but it still clipped my side and sent me flying... hurt like
hell, and it gave me a nice red mark across my side and my leg. Fortunately,
both myself and the computer are both ok... I've also had my fingers smashed
by a 600 pound disk drive... had my foot run over by the same drive, and
struggled to push an IBM mainframe up a hill. However, I'm not sure whether
my dad or the computers are more dangerous... he pushed the disk drive into
my hand, and he ran over my foot with it too... ;p
Will J
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Forwarding this to the list, as per request, got sent directly to me by
mistake :^) Obviously I don't agree with the following. Just wish I had a
5300 and $1700, I'd be jumping on this deal.
Though got to admit I'd only heard about the battery problems, not the
reliability problems.
Zane
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> > From: healyzh(a)aracnet.com
> > Subject: Re: Apple Recall of powerbooks
> > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> > Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 13:33:21 -0700 (PDT)
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>
> > > http://www.pbzone.com/index.shtml#applestore
> > > States that apple will be destroying the PB that are sent back.
> > > Time to find those babies and protect them from doom.
> > > Francois
> >
> > There is a good reason they're trying to get them back and destroyed.
> > They're a fire hazard. Basically use them at your own risk, and if possible
> > without the batteries installed. IIRC, those batteries can explode under
> > the correct conditions.
>
> Misinformation again. That's for lithium-ion batteries recall.
> Rest I hear is reliablity issues besides this lithium-ion.
>
> But I'm still not conviced that apple should waste time sending out
> this to pull in people to give up their lucky still working 190 and
> 5300 and force them to spend 1700. Still doesn't sound right. I'm
> after the truth.
>
> 1. Is Apple weaseling out of this deal?
> 2. Is Apple anxious to earn some profits?
> 3. Is apple trying to clear out the performance similaries to other
> powerbooks but lesser features and expansion get cramped by ridding
> of 190 and 5300?
>
> Remember, Apple have always cut corners and skrimped on cost and
> durablity, reliablity. All I think of this that might made people
> happy is stockholders.
>
> Even the worst maker actually had similar problems like this and left
> it as is and moved on without fuss. Bondwell was horrible in past,
> toshiba and few others were or are like that currently, poor support.
>
> My advice. Turn down toshiba, compaq, pb, apple. Look at ibm, asus
> and few others instead.
>
> Wizard
>
> > Zane
>
This whole thread's killing me, but that's a hazard of staying
connected to the community :>.
Goodwill's mission is to provide jobs and training.
A bio of the founder, Edgar J. Helms, availible at
http://www.makeadifferenceusa.org/honorees/helms.html
alludes to this.
The fact that these jobs and associated training sometimes
involve sorting and selling donated used goods as a means to
that end doesn't exclude a museum. The museum could very
well also provide employment in a similar manner, and be
within their "charter."
--Mike
I'd use the licenses... the licenses I use were bought by the Denver
Nuggets, though I did get the hobbyist license, I never could get the damn
thing to work. I really only care about using the licenses so that the damn
"unlicensed" message goes away. And as far as I'm concerned, I'd rather
castrate myself with rusty hedge clippers than give ComCrap *any* of my
money... I'd give DEC money for real licenses, but since ComCrap has
annihilated them, too damn bad if they want money. Ok that was a satisfying
rant ;p
Will J
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