test-drb November 2001

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by geoffrob＠stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au

An acquaintance (freeware developer of VMS web/proxy server package) is looking to source some memory for a Microvax 3100 that some organisation in Macedonia (not sure which Macedonia, but probably the FYR) wish to use for a Web server. (seriously!) Anyone have anything in that line they would be prepared to part with cheap? I've offered a complete (minus drives) MV3400 and/or a 6000 but the freight would be nasty even on the 3400, so they really just want some ram. Sources in Oz or Europe preferred, but if the price is right, wherever.... OTOH, if someone in Europe has a complete VMS/Vax system that might be suitable and can arrange it to get there, that would be good too. Cheers Geoff Roberts Computer Systems Manager Saint Mark's College Port Pirie, South Australia geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au ICQ 1970476

24 years

Neat computer cluster available for hauling in East Sussex, UK

by vcf＠vintage.org

If anyone is interested, go for it. Please reply directly to original sender. Reply-to: iain.barr(a)stbedesschool.org ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 16:36:12 +0000 From: "Mr Iain Barr (Director of IT)" <iain.barr(a)stbedesschool.org> Subject: Computer Donation We have recently de-commissioned a network of: 1 x RM LM Server (OS2) - hard disk failure 12 x RM Nimbus diskless workstations (286/386 M-Series PCs) + 14" VGA monitors plus some BNC cabling and a repeater (or two) We would prefer to donate rather than bin! We are an independent school in East Sussex. Are you interested? Please reply asap xxxxx xx xx x i b x j |-- Mr Iain J Barr Director of IT St Bede's School ---------------------------- http://www.stbedesschool.org ---------------------------- STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential. You should not copy it or disclose its contents to anyone. You may use and apply the information only for the intended purpose. Internet communications are not secure and therefore St Bede's School does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are only those of the author and not those of St Bede's School. If this email has come to you in error please delete it and any attachments. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

24 years

Xebec Sider for Apple II

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

At 11:27 AM 11/15/01 -0800, you wrote: >There were at least 2 versions of Sider drives/Cards... > >One was a straight ribbon cable... The other looked like a standard SCSI >cable but I don't remember if it was a real scsi interface or not... > >George Rachor Someone should try one of the old Tandy 8MB 8" HD chassis on one of those, they used a SASI interface also.. it might work :)

24 years

Xebec Sider for Apple II

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Hello all, I recently received a Xebec Sider drive (external hard drive for the Apple II) -- Thanks RE! It did not, however, come with the card that goes in the Apple II, nor did it come with the cable. Judging by their going price on eBay, I know this is a futile attempt, but does anybody have a spare card/cable that they'd be willing to part with (or could be pried out of their hands by $)? I'd rather not pay eBay prices, so perhaps a trade?? Anyway, let me know, and try not to laugh too hard.... Thanks! Rich B. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin

24 years

VAX (Was: Cromemco landmarks)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On November 15, Ethan Dicks wrote: > Speaking of the 8200, does anyone have any 8250 CPUs lying around? I > would love to take my 8300 up to an 8350. I'd rather trade than buy > at this point - it's a very low-priority upgrade. I may have a couple. I will keep my eye out for them as I unpack my stuff post-move. If you don't find some in a few weeks, ping me. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

24 years

Xebec Sider for Apple II

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 15, 8:33, Ernest wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Pete Turnbull > > > What would it look like? I assume it would have a ribbon > > connector between > > the Apple card and the Sider. Do you know how many pins? I don't think > > the card I have is what you want, but you never know... > > It has a Xebec label on the card, and a wide rainbow ribbon cable comming > directly off the tail end of the card. Yeah, but how wide is "wide"? The card I have seems not to be what's required. It's intended to connect to a Xebec card all right, but the connector is only 26-way. Thanks to Dick Erlacher who mailed me with the details, I know the Sider needs rather more wires (all 50, probably). My card was made by HAL Computers Ltd in 1983, labelled "APPLE 2/3 XEBEC INTERFACE REV 1", and the only strings I can find in the EPROM are "(C) HAL COMPUTERS LTD 1983 A/XHAL SHARED RESOURCE WINCHESTER SYSTEM", "NOT CONNECTED", and "SRS ERROR". If anybody knows any more about this, I'd be interested to hear about it, otherwise it will languish in my box of odd cards for a day when I'm particularly bored and decide to try it out (yes, I have a spare Xebec controller and ST412 drives). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

24 years

Cable and connector source

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 8, 21:54, Don McClure wrote: > > [ plain text > Encoded with "quoted-printable" ] : Yes, I am learning to hate them too. I ruined two mini-DINs when trying to > solder them up. I'm going to try again using crimp connectors instead, when > I locate some. I've never seen any crimp miniDINs, so don't wait too long ;-) There's a trick to soldering them. Stick the plug in a socket (or, btter still, a potato) to solder it. It stops things getting too hot and melting. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

24 years

Cromemco landmarks

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On November 9, Iggy Drougge wrote: > Isn't this rather odd? The MicroVAX II is supposed to be 0,5 VUP, right? So > what have the DEC engineers done to make it just as fast in the Dhrystone and > even faster than the 11/780 in the Whetstone benchmarks? 0.9 VUP, not 0.5. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

24 years

AI and mythology - and let's stop the spirituality flaming (was: OT again Re: food)

by rdd＠smart.net

In some previous message, Marvin Johston wrote: > Subject: OT again Re: food It never ceases to amaze me how messages that start out pertaining to classic computers can become transformed into messages about food and then into messages pertaining to philosophy, mythology and religion. :-) To help steer things back on-topic, is anyone here familiar with AI programs pertaining to mythology used on classic computers? > I can't believe there is anybody who doesn't believe in God. I could reply with: Hey, why'd you leave out the other half, the Goddess that some of us also believe in? :-) ...although perhaps some of us don't believe in a God and Goddess literally, but as balanced manifestations of the divine. However... Let's please not have religious warfare on this list; the world has seen more than enough of that. Some of us believe in some form, or forms, of deity literally; some of us take an approach similar to that of Albert Einstein, an agnostic approach, and just consider it all to be a mystery that we don't have definite knowledge of, but feel that some form of deity and afterlife exist and still value spirituality, etc. Are these not all just different paths to the same thing, with more similarites than differences once the dogma is stripped away? There's n benefit to arguing or fighting over the differences... different spiritual beliefs work for, and are helpful to, different people. Then, there are the atheiests who don't believe in the spiritual at all - but it's not for me to censure them for their disbelief, just as it's not right for them to censure anyone else for their beliefs. -- Copyright (C) 2001 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & rdd(a)rddavis.net 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such http://www.rddavis.net beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.

24 years

hard-sector 5 1/4 disk

by jdonogh1＠prodigy.net

Anybody ever see anything that uses hard sector 5 1/4 disks? I've only ever seen one in my lifetime - just curious if they were ever used anywhere else (the one I saw was used to load microcode into a mainframe CPU)

24 years

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test-drb November 2001