Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:42:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Don Maslin <donm(a)cts.com>
Subject: Re: Xenix ?
On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, M H Stein wrote:
> -----------Original Message----------
--------------Original Message------------------
> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:45:49 -0700
> From: Ben Franchuk <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca>
> Subject: Re: Xenix ?
>
> Don Maslin wrote:
> > Somehow, I am inclined to question if there was a Z-80 version of Xenix
> > and, if not, then there was none for the Model II.
>
> The only OS that came close to Unix for 8 bit micros was OS/9 for the
> 6809 and
> <snip>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Don't forget Z80 Cromix...
>
> mike
And Minix, but none of them are really Xenix.
- don
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I was just responding to the "only OS... was OS/9" (not suggesting it
was Xenix (or Unix)), since a lot of misinformation on the 'Net
erroneously states that Cromix was for the 68000 (for which it was
indeed later adapted).
Some pictures and background info on Cromemco & Cromix at
http://www-db.stanford.edu/pub/voy/museum/pictures/display/3-5-CROMEMCO.html
And a list of Unix derivatives:
http://www.csee.wvu.edu/~jdm/classes/cs258/OScat/unix.html
And how to become an author:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/show-interview/s-m-obellarkg/104-6433823-…
mike
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Sellam Ismail wrote:
>
> > Here's a picture of John at the console demonstrating the machine to a
> > group of us at the last VCF Europa:
>
> How big is it in total?
This photo might yield up a clue:
http://members.iglou.com/dougq/cdc/cyber960.jpg
-dq
I visited a shop in "Siberia" which I hadn't visited in a long time today.
they had redecorated, and in the inner-most room, they had a "50% off" shelf.
They had several sealed packs of eight-inch floppies, BASF-made. Their price?
Five crowns! And then fifty percent off that, that's 2,50, or 25 US cents. I
got two to begin with (I only had some change, and wans't aware that the
discount was referring to the 5 kr merchandise. I also got some Token Ring
NICs, a TR cable and a sealed case of 5?" DD floppies at the same price.
Some things I did't get:
A lot of WANG things; several ISA cards with BNC and TNC connectors, printer
adaptors (boxes with BNC and Centronics connectors), baluns.
Original Novell NE2000 cards. Bad cards, but nice to some collectors, I
suppose, and useful for programmers.
Odd PhoneNet concentrators.
--
En ligne avec Thor 2.6a.
IRAQ, 10984 GHz, V
Getting TV from Iraq at all is kinda cool - you can get propaganda in English
at 1900 BST, and see the guy with the moustache almost any time. When they
show anime it's even cooler...
Geoff Cowie
I received an offer of this machine I no longer have space. If
someone is interested in picking this up in Ottawa let me know. If
you're making a trip I may even throw in a PDP 11/34 !
>
>I have an old Pyramid 90x (about equivalent to a VAX 11-780 and the
size
>of two refrigerators) gathering dust in my garage. It might never
run
>again and the OS tapes, etc. as well as a few cables are long gone.
But
>if you're interested you're welcome to it.
>
Collector of Vintage Computers (www.ncf.ca/~ba600)
Hmm... Any chance that it runs PLATO? I'd be happy to help with a
coordinated rescue. I live in Delaware, but have been doing some weekly
travel to Atlanta to work on a project.
- Tony
At 09:49 AM 11/13/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Forwarded from COMP.SYS.CDC; please direct replies to the
>original poster... -doug q
>
>"James B. DiGriz" <jbdigriz(a)dragonsweb.org> wrote in message
>news:<9spg2t$qia$1(a)ns2.i16.net>...
> > A source tells me the current plan is to sell the UGA Cyber 960 being
> > decommissioned in Athens, for scrap. Anybody here interested in trying to
> > save it? Hate to see it scrapped. There can't be that many of them left.
> >
> > The University System doesn't dispose of surplus property itself in the
> > State of Georgia. This is handled by the Department of Administrative
> > Services. Normally, if no qualifying org. or local govt. puts in for it,
> > it goes to periodic auctions in Atlanta, Albany ( I think), and
> > Swainsboro. The last is about an hour's drive from me.
> >
> > A non-profit museum, educational org, or research inst. stands the only
> > realistic chance of getting hold of this kind of stuff before it's
> > dismembered, manuals and software lost, and scattered out to scrap
> > auctions. It's highly doubtful it'd be sold as a complete system, but I
> > could be wrong, so I'm looking into the possibility of setting something
> > up, or finding an existing party which qualifies, preferably in the state,
> > or at least the Southeast. Let me know if you're interested in putting
> > heads together on this.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > jbdigriz
"Curt Vendel" <curt(a)atari-history.com> wrote:
> My quest for the elusive Corvus Concept finally ended as I was able to
> obtain one of the beastie's in excellent shape. There is mention of a disk
> drive for the system, I'm wondering if there are any other Concept owners
> out there who have explored the inner workings of the unit.
Congratulations!
Corvus made 8" and 5.25" floppy drives for the Concept, and matching
controller(s) that fit in one of the Concept's slots. The
controller(s) are based on the WD1793 FDC.
The 8" disk drive is a Tandon half-height 8" (848?) in a box with
power supply. Nothing special except it says "Corvus Systems" on the
box.
The 5.25" disk drive...well, I can't remember:
(a) whether it used the same controller as the 8"
(b) if so, what they did to get from the 50-pin connector on the
controller to the 34-pin connector on the drive
Most Concept floppies that I've seen have been 8", and I've only seen
one of the 5.25" drives.
-Frank McConnell
>I've never used my OD. ...
>....Since it would be useless when I get a
>33mhz motherboard, why bother?
Well, you *could* make it useful. Do the hack to install your old
25 MHz mainboard in one of the alternate slots. Put the new 33 MHz
mainboard in the traditional slot. Connect both to your ethernetwork. Have
the 25 MHz net-boot from the 33 MHz, or boot it off its own optical (but
I'd have it net-boot, so
you can use the optical for backups or whatever).
I dunno what your power supply would think of all this,
particularly if that's the same system you have the Dimension in, so I
recommend some caution, but if it works it'll be pretty cool. You'd still
be able to access the OD, via the 25 MHz board (which you could also set up
as a print server), but all your console programs would get the benefit of
the 33 MHz board.
- Mark
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:18:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com>
Subject: Re: Lifting stuff into racks
On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 Sellam Ismail wrote:
> I think we could learn a lot from the Egyptians in this matter. Too
bad
> they didn't leave behind a reference guide.
Allegedly, they left a guide but it's in an unreadable format. The
archaeologists are still arguing whether to blame Sellam's drives or
Dick's disks ;-)
Phil
-----
Mac OS X: It's Unix, Jim, but not as we know it...
All,
My division of SwRI is getting rid of a large pile (appx. 1000)
9-track tapes. They are 8 inch and 10 inch sized reels, 1600 to 6250 bpi,
Scotch Black Watch 777 brand (for the most part).
I'm going to collect all the ones headed for the trash, stack them
in my office, and either put them in the right hands or transfer them to
the dumpster a few at a time if no-one is interested.
Please contact me off-line (mtapley(a)swri.edu) if you are willing to
pay shipping in order to have some of these show up at your door. I'm in
San Antonio, Texas, USA, zip code 78238, for purposes of calculating
postage.
Data on the tapes is probably NASA satellite data; it need not and
will not be erased, so you can peruse it or erase the tape at your
convenience.
- Mark
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
>
> > Forwarded from COMP.SYS.CDC; please direct replies to the
> > original poster... -doug q
>
> The only person I know who might truly be interested in acquiring this
> beast is John Zabolitzky in Munich, Germany. But he already has one
> complete system, UP AND RUNNING even.
>
> Here's a picture of John at the console demonstrating the machine to a
> group of us at the last VCF Europa:
>
> http://www.siconic.com/crap/John%20Zabolitzky%20Demonstraing%2
> 0Cyber%20960%204.jpg
Sellam, you're the most prominent fixture in the picture!
> Other than he, the only organization that I know would be capable of
> retrieving and storing this machine is the Computer History Museum here in
> the Sillycon Valley.
They might not consider the 180/960 worth having, it's not a
historical machine, well, yes, "last of the line" would be
considered historical... at least I *think* this was the last
model (in the line that trails back to the 6600).
