I never thought hotdogs strange.. They're pretty straightforward,
take lips, assholes, and add the FDA approved 0.5% of rat feces.
Oh, add the casing.
Jim
On Tuesday, November 06, 2001 2:29 AM, One Without Reason
[SMTP:vance@ikickass.org] wrote:
>
> The same criterion could be applied to hot dogs.
>
> Peace... Sridhar
>
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2001, Jeffrey S. Sharp wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2001, Chad Fernandez wrote:
> >
> > > Richard Erlacher wrote:
> > >
> > > > Americans have always been somewhat "strange" about their diet,
> > >
> > > How? I've never seen anything that I thought was strange.
> >
> > Gravy. Gravy is pretty strange when you consider what goes into it.
> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey S. Sharp
> > jss(a)subatomix.com
> >
Hello John and others,
> I think I could pay scrap (.gt. free ) value.
The scrap from commercial systems is actually valuable.
Scrappers can get up to $2.00 per pound for it. I had 8
racks of cards ( non-DEC very proprietary stuff ) that
didn't seem to want to sell individually, so I sold to a
scrapper. That batch totaled 880 pounds, and I got $660.00
( $.75 per pound ) and that scrapper wouldn't have been
buying it unless he was making good money on it too. It
just about paid for the 16' beavertail flatbed trailer I
bought from the same fellow.
So when Heinz says ...
> It sucks that these people would rather scrap out a machine
> than let a collector have it for free.
It translates to ...
"it sucks that people won't give away free money"
Bennett
I still see it sold under the brand name "Carbochlor" as a industrial grease
thinner/solvent. Dry cleaners still use it too.
Any decent hardware will stock it.
On a off note, it's fun to add to a styrofoam cup of coffee.. Scent fades and
the cup dissolves to a rubbery shell. Pick up the cup, you're stuck with a
handful of goop and coffee. Oh, and don't get it on your hands. Not only is
it a carcinogen, you'll get a benzene buzz from even small splashes.
And SpotShot isn't anything like Carbona.
Jim
On Monday, November 05, 2001 6:10 PM, Russ Blakeman [SMTP:rhblakeman@kih.net]
wrote:
> Carbon Tetrachloride is what Carbona spot remover was. I think they've
> either outlawed it or just taken it from the market for consumers.
>
> -> -----Original Message-----
> -> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> -> [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Douglas Quebbeman
> -> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:16 PM
> -> To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'
> -> Subject: RE: Rubber Restorer...
> ->
> ->
> -> > HP recommends a plain old water (a damp cloth) to clean
> -> printer rollers. I
> -> > just cleaned the rollers on my DeskJet 820ce and the paper feed is much
> -> > improved. It remains to be seen how long it lasts this way, though.
> ->
> -> Cleaning isn't the issue- deglazing is. Rubber rollers become
> -> glazed on their surface, and whether it's from picking up dirt
> -> and dust or because the rubber simply fuses chemically at the
> -> surface I don't know. But traditionally, cerbon tetrachloride
> -> was used for this purpose. I also used it to highlight watermarks
> -> in vintage postage stamps.
> ->
> -> Regards,
> -> -dq
> ->
Phil and Mac junkies;
The MicronEye was in production for a very short time as far as
I know. It claimed to use a "video RAM" - a light sensitive
RAM that they claim they discovered by accident. The MicronEye
was a bit larger than a 35MM film cannister and had a focusable
lens and iris at one end and a ribbon cable coming out the other
end, which plugged into a tan flat controller box. The controller
box connected to the printer or modem serial port on the Mac.
The camera came with a small foot-high tripod so you could aim it
and a diskette with the application sofware on it. The software
let you take black and white pictures and save them as either
PICT files or MacPaint files. If I recall correctly, the picture
that it took was half of an original Mac size screen and was
definitely black and white only.
Also FYI - the MicronEye was released and available when the
original 128K Mac was released, which was when I got mine.
I still have it all along with the software. It all worked last
time I fired it up.
I also have an interesting game call Chipwits for the 128K Mac.
It let you program a robot to navigate itself through various
environments. The programming language was innovative and was
call "IBOL", as it was all icon based.
I also have Musicworks - which let you write music and play it
back, etc.
And of course I have Macwrite and Macpaint in the original box.
Both work on the Mac OS system version 1.0.
I have an original IBM PC from the same era. I boot both of
them up side by side and wonder why in the hell the PC won.
(and yes, I know why, before you send your reasons)
As much as I love my Macs, real programming died the day
they invented the GUI. Give me an assembler and some silicon
and a mission, and I'm a happy guy.
> From: Phil Beesley <beesley(a)mandrake.demon.co.uk>
> Subject: MicronEye
>
> Please don't tease, Craig. Tell us a bit more about the MicronEye --
> Google doesn't throw up much more than "camera from 8 bit era".
>
> Phil
>What's unfortunate, at least from where I sit, is that though some sources give
>you a schematic or an HDL of a CPU, yet they don't tell you WHY the choices made
>in its design were made. Normally such decisions are normally driven by
>requirements, be it for performance, or for specific addressing modes, chip
>size, or whatever. It seems we never see light shed on such matters.
Sometimes you can find this information on the web. Now that many of the
older computers
are of historical value people are writing things down.
>One caution is certainly warranted, however. Fully synchronous design became
>the default method of designing circuits of anysubstance in the mid-late '80's.
>One result, of course, was that signal races were easily avoided, and, with the
>use of pipelining, it allowed for the acceleration of some processes at the cost
>of increased latency. The use of fully sunchronous design drove up CPU cost,
>however, and was not an automatically assumed strategy in the early '70's, so
>you've got to consider WHEN a design was specified before making any assumptions
>about why things were done in a given way.
I thought that that was due more to the fact (core) memory was
asynchronous with a wide
range of cycle times as well as I/O transfers. Only with memory being in
the same box as
the cpu does a more synchronous system make sense.
>Classic CPU's were mostly NOT fully synchronous, as fully synchronous design
>required the use of costlier faster logic families throughout a design when that
>wasn't necessarily warranted. Today's FPGA and CPLD devices, when used to host
>a classic CPU design, eliminate the justifications for asynchronous design
>strategies that were popular in the early '70's - late '80's. Their use
>essentially requires the design be synchronous, not only because signal
>distribution/routing resources are limited, but because propagation delays are
>so different from wht they were in the original discrete version.
What is so different a F/F is still a F/F, a gate is still a gate. It is
only that
routing delays are a unknown so you can't use logic that requires timing
delays or
or oneshots. It is only that the programs can't discover when logic can
or cannot change
like a designer can but must use worse case assumptions .It is only in
the case when you
have a single clock that timing calculations are the most accurate.
How ever I suspect most CPU design starts with a clean sheet of paper
lays out goals and basic
design parameters. A good block diagram often can tell you how complex
your system is.
While gates are important the quantify and packaging of the gates define
just how your system
can be laid out. Only after the instruction set is defined do you look
at the logic need
to produce the Computer System, and once you lay things out you have
good idea of
what instructions are needed. Of course everything gets revised again
and again.
http://www.ulib.org/webRoot/Books/Saving_Bell_Books for some interesting
reading.
Also "CMOS circuit design,layout and simulation" ISBN 0-7803-3416-7 is
very good reading for
CPU design at the real gate level.
Ben Franchuk.
--
Standard Disclaimer : 97% speculation 2% bad grammar 1% facts.
"Pre-historic Cpu's" http://www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk
Now with schematics.
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language lists "One-off" as:
Adjective: (Chiefly British) Happening, done, or made only once.
Noun: Something that is not repeated or reproduced.
Does anyone have an Oxford English Dictionary handy? It should give the date
of the earliest in-print reference.
At 05:12 PM 11/5/01 -0500, you wrote:
>> What I would like to see is a LAPACK library that makes full use of the
G4's
>> vector processing capability--it should bring any pentium of any speed to
>> its knees in numerical linear algebra applications. Is there any such
beast
>> around? Of the non-commercial variety?
>
>Is LAPACK like LINPACK for PCs?
>
>-dq
No, it is the desdendant of it; in its latest reincarnation, for
example, all inner routines were recoded to take advantage of the
fact that in modern systems cache hit ratio pretty much determines what
the final speed will be. Tests are made to find out the optimal inner
buffer size (i.e. cache) and routines then use optimal data block sizes
for the cache size. IT used to be Eispack (yes, the scope was much
narrower for this one). Then Linpack. Now IT is Lapack, at least for dense
systems; for sparse numerical linear algebra, there is a plethora of packages.
Matlab challenge question: what does the dongarra(n) function compute?
This is an undocumented function in matlab. (Jack Dongarra has been one of
the pivotal personalities behind these public domain numerical linear
algebra packages).
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Carlos E. Murillo-Sanchez carlos_murillo(a)nospammers.ieee.org
I have just spent the last few weeks living a computer collector's
nightmare.... moving. The entire collection had to be packed up,
loaded, moved and unloaded. The good part is I now have a larger
place and I'm taking the time to organize and get a better, newer
inventory. During which I've decided to pass along some things I
have extras of or will never get around to working with. There is
more to come but I'll start off with some of the larger items.
Item 1 - DEC PDP-8 stuff. Two card cages with various boards (not
sure what all is in there at the moment), power distribution strip,
and two RK05 drives. I think I have a PDP-8A front panel that went
with all of it here too. All is in unknown condition. I thought I'd
have time to try and do something with all this once but I know now
I won't.
Item 2 - Sun 3/50. System plus two 19" monitors, 2 keyboards
and a mouse. Unknown condition.
Item 3 - Box of various Sun OS tapes.
If you have something you'd like to trade me I'll be happy to
consider it but otherwise they're free for pick up in Houston TX. I
often drive up to Austin (doing so this weekend in fact) and might
be convinced to tote them along but can't promise. If nobody
wants them then it's off to the local scrapper I guess.
Other stuff available soon as I sort through all these systems and
boxes.
-----
"What is, is what?"
"When the mind is free of any thought or judgement,
then and only then can we know things as they are."
David Williams - Computer Packrat
dlw(a)trailingedge.com
http://www.trailingedge.com
Carlos:
The company *is* Winternals. These are guys from the Andrew Schulman
book-writing group. I forget who started it (Matt Pietrek??) but he was a
columnist for Microsoft Systems Journal and specialized in NT-related
systems stuff.
Rich
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-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos Murillo [mailto:cmurillo@emtelsa.multi.net.co]
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 9:46 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: OT: Determining TCP port ownership
At 08:46 PM 11/4/01 -0500, Rich Cini wrote:
>
> I downloaded an evaluation version of a program called TCPView fron
>http://www.winternals.com which tracks in real-time the port usage and the
>module responsible for the port. This is how I found out that the
monitoring
>software for the UPS was grabbing the SNMP port.
>
> I would still appreciate pointers to free utilities for NT that do
this
>because $70 is too much to spend for the expected rare usage.
Hmmm... would you indicate the software company? My home ups comes with
some software that I haven't installed, and I'd like to know if
it is the same ... (apc smartups 700). At work I have a 900XL which
comes with software for HPUX among others, also yet to be installed.
Yes, I do have the special cables for connecting the ups to the
serial ports ($41 direct from APC-yikes! but the pin-out was
propietary).
carlos.
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Carlos E. Murillo-Sanchez carlos_murillo(a)nospammers.ieee.org
> What I would like to see is a LAPACK library that makes full use of the G4's
> vector processing capability--it should bring any pentium of any speed to
> its knees in numerical linear algebra applications. Is there any such beast
> around? Of the non-commercial variety?
Is LAPACK like LINPACK for PCs?
-dq
