test-drb February 2001

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by optimus＠canit.se

There's been some talk about old Suns recently, and I thought this might be interesting. It's a download of SunOS 4.1.1, available at http://sun3arc.krupp.net/. Mind you, they seem awfully suspicious. Why so interested in my identd? -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon X Campaign Against / \ HTML Mail!

25 years

VMS 4.4 source code on microfiche

by dan＠ekoan.com

Hello folks, While cleaning out a storage box I came across a padded envelope that contains 536 sheets of microfiche perporting to be the source code for VAX/VMS 4.4. Each sheet is numbered from 0001 to 0536, has a part number of AH-HP48A-SE and is marked "DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION" / "CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY". The envelope itself is labeled AH-HP48A-SE VAX/VMS V4.4 SRC LST MCRF (c) 1986 My question is, was DEC in the habit of selling or distributing their OS source code to third parties? If I recall correctly, VMS was written (mostly) in BLISS, but since my microfiche reader is still in storage I can't confirm the contents of these sheets. I also seem to recall a VMS simulator for MS-DOS that I have around here somewhere... Cheers, Dan

25 years

Data I/O 212 EPROM programmer

by JELynch＠stny.rr.com

I am looking for information on the basic operation of the data i/o 212 eprom programmer. In addition, what is the disk that plugs into the side of this unit for?

25 years

E11/WinME results....

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

In case anyone cares it seems to work OK, I was able to boot RT-11, though I think I'm going to have to take a keyboard with me to plug in so that I'll have a keypad! BTW, I think the Wireless Ethernet I got with it is going to be pretty cool. Definitly be handy for my wife so she doesn't have to risk life and limb by entering the computer room :^) Zane

25 years

OT: Re: E11 / Windows ME question

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

***** Warning I'm going OT, lighting afterburners, putting on my flame retardant suit, taking Mylanta, eating Tagamets, ***** File moving messages/Moving file messages. Maybe we are all missing the assumptions that these types of animations create. 1. Do I need to see bits flying through the air? 2. How about a fuel gauge of the source disk and another for the destination disk? :) 3. What we really need is a "real" indicator. 4. I seem to remember looking at disk drive lights and feeling comfortable that data was being read from one and written to another. 5. I could also tell a lot about system activity by looking at the register lights, device lights and noticing patterns. 6. I seem to remember system idle patterns that let me know my program was done or hung up. 7. System lights are now only indicators that the power supply is working. 8. I also can't stand lights that indicate the sum of all disk activity. 9. Have you ever put your ear to a disk drive to see if anything is actually happening? 9. Now data could be written to the Microsoft black hole and I wouldn't be able to notice it unless it didn't make it to my destination disk. 10. Maybe the data is in the systems disk cache and not on the disk. 11. Maybe the data is in the disk controller cache and not on the disk. 12. Maybe it didn't make it intact. 13. Maybe the blue screen got it. 14. Maybe the data doesn't exist at all but is only electrons that are rented to me while my software/hardware license is paid up and I'm behaving. What I'm saying is that the message is now more important than the substance of the action. Cute messages instead of substance. I'm now changing my diapers and having another bourbon and water until my blood pressure drops below 1000/1000. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

25 years

OT: Re: E11 / Windows ME question

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 03:49 PM 2/14/01 -0800, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote: >A friend told me off-list that when copying a file, there is a graphic >icon of each bit being moved. He suggested that the floating point was >required for the OS due to some MICROS~1 OS programmer being unable to >compute the parabolic trajectory of the bits without using floats. >BTW, 95 will install on the same machine without the FPU (486SX). >Which apps, etc. are different? Or did MICROS~1 simply do the FPU >requirement to reduce the number of performance complaints about their >apps? You mean to tell me that you've never seen or used contemporary post-95 Windows, but you feel comfortable criticizing it? Yes, there's a lame animation when copying files. I can tell you a number of things wrong with *just that animation* - such as that it's not actually an accurate depiction of anything. It doesn't represent bits, bytes, blocks or any actual percentage of completion in any consistent fashion (between apps) as far as I can tell, and doesn't adequately represent errors. I highly doubt the code to do the arc uses floats. There are only a small number of steps in the animation. I would guess the tweens are hard-coded. As for the FPU, if they raised the bar for a minimum processor to an Intel level that includes an FPU, then they no longer need to compile code that can either use a software floating-point library or the hardware FPU. I was looking over the Windows 2000 requirements today - they only demand a Pentium 133 as the minimum... and that was the "recommended" level of system for Windows NT 3.x five-six years ago, as I recall. - John

25 years

HP Drives

by vicky＠horizondatacom.com

Hi, I'm in the market for some drives for an HP 9000 300 Series computer. Can anyone help? I need the 10MB drives, part# 9153A or long pn# 97500-85600 or the 20MB drives 9153B or pn# 45816-69111. Vicky Nosbisch Horizon DataCom Solutions, Inc. P: 614/847-0400 www.horizondatacom.com vicky(a)horizondatacom.com

25 years

Usenet postings on CD-ROM (was Re: Dejanews)

by mark_k＠iname.com

Hi, On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 John Ruschmeyer wrote: > Even better, they are going to be reinstating the dejaNews archives > back to 1995. > > Now if someone would just find a way to incorporate the old Usenet on > CD archives and, perhaps, take donations of single articles that > people may have archived personally. A few years ago (probably 1992-1994??) at least one company produced monthly CDs containing Usenet postings. I seem to remember reading somewhere that were for use on Sun workstations or similar, since the CDs used the workstation's native filesystem rather than ISO 9660. Maybe they changed that for later CDs. Does anyone have any of these Usenet CDs? -- Mark

25 years

Older DEC manuals

by dan＠ekoan.com

Hello again, Further cleaning of a storage area revealed a three-ring binder containing the following DEC manuals, one of which surprised me: VT55 Programming Manual (AA-4949B-TC) DLV11-E and DLV11-F asynchronous line interface user's manual (EK-DLV11-OP-001) RL01/RL02 Disk Subsystem User's Guide (EK-RL012-UG-002) RX02 Floppy Disk System User's Guide PDP-11 Family Field Installation and Hardware Acceptance Reference Manual (EK-FS003-IN-002), the title page of which is stamped "COMPANY CONFIDENTIAL." My question on this one is, was it common for these field service manuals to find their way out into the wild? There is also a manual from Computer Devices, Inc., titled Miniterm 80/132 Printing Option (0008-03421G) Operation Manual Cheers, Dan

25 years

White Chapel Workstations (Hitech) Hardware/Docs/Software Wanted

by vonhagen＠vonhagen.org

After begging for help with my new MicroExploder, it occurred to me that it's been a while since I begged the group and the universe in general for any White Chapel Workstation or Hitech hardware, docs, marketing literature. if you have any WCW hardware, docs, etc. that you're willing to part with, please let me know. I'll pay something plus all shipping charges. It doesn't matter what country you're in! "Will work for obscure computers" Bill

25 years

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