In a message dated 2/14/01 12:35:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
phil(a)ultimate.com writes:
>
> Since this is a retro list, let's not forget Solaris 1 (aka SunOS 4).
> I'm typing this now on a Sun type 3, connected to an IPX running 4.1.4.
>
> But I'll confess, I'm willing to deal with having to tweak builds on
> occasion, since SunOS4 is hardly mainstream any more.
>
> -phil
>
>
I have a question that belongs on this list for sure.. Is it possible and
legal to obtain a copy of an old version of SunOS or Solaris to run on these
old machines? My personal opinion is that NetBSD or Linux would run better
on them, but for historical interest it might be nice to have one running an
old Solaris as well.
-Linc.
> From: healyzh(a)aracnet.com
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:45:20 -0800 (PST)
> Probably pretty close to being on topic. You can run up to either Solaris
> 2.6 or 7 on it. Max RAM is 64MB, or 96/128MB with special S-Bus and
> piggyback cards (32MB each). Uses Narrow SCSI. I'd recommend checking out
> OpenBSD or NetBSD for it. It's old and slow so a lightweight OS helps.
Since this is a retro list, let's not forget Solaris 1 (aka SunOS 4).
I'm typing this now on a Sun type 3, connected to an IPX running 4.1.4.
But I'll confess, I'm willing to deal with having to tweak builds on
occasion, since SunOS4 is hardly mainstream any more.
-phil
Tom Uban <uban(a)ubanproductions.com> wrote:
> The older SunOS system runs very well on this, but condider that if you
> need to use a "modern" hard drive, you will be limited to about 2GB (I think)
> if you use one of the older OS's. That is why I went to NetBSD, it has kept
> up with the latest hardware...
Vague recollections:
SunOS 4.1.1 can't handle disks larger than ~1GB.
SunOS 4.1.4 can't handle filesystems larger than 2GB, but can put more
than one of them on a larger disk.
-Frank McConnell
On Feb 14, 12:58, LFessen106(a)aol.com wrote:
> I have a question that belongs on this list for sure.. Is it possible
and
> legal to obtain a copy of an old version of SunOS or Solaris to run on
these
> old machines? My personal opinion is that NetBSD or Linux would run
better
> on them, but for historical interest it might be nice to have one running
an
> old Solaris as well.
For a while, Sun had a webpage from which you could obtain Solaris 7 (or
was it 6?) free, and last time I looked it was possible to obtain Solaris 8
similarly (but that won't run on the older architectures). I'm sure it's
been mentioned here before; look in the list archives. I'd try asking on
comp.sys.sun et al for a copy.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
Okay, I picked up quite a haul for $20:
* Commodore 64 in almost-new looking condition, original box
* 1541 Disk drive, in original box (but no disk drive manual :(
* 1525 Printer, in box
* Programmer's Reference Guide
* User's Guide
* Assorted software and disks
* VicModem
* Two joysticks
* All cables
Anyways, hooked it up, wrote a few BASIC programs, ran a couple
of the programs supplied, cool.
Now the question is, where on earth will I find some key
programs -- mostly games (after all, games were its specialty!)
but I REALLY want a 6502 assembler like Merlin, and to find
connectors to fit the cartridge slot to hang some custom hardware
off of and develop driver code for. I'll be careful. :)
And if I find it somewhere on the 'net, how to get it into
the C64? Has anyone solved that one?
I know it's got an RS232 port, so perhaps I could write a small
BASIC program to bootstrap in the program at low speed and develop
something like an Xmodem download with the downloaded assembler.
Just wondering if anyone has
a better way to get software from 'net to C64, and knows a good
source for same. Maybe a cave full of cartridges like the
Atari has exists out there... :)
-- Ross
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:53:25 -0800 Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com>
writes:
> Nope, you are confusing Windows "CE" with Windows "ME" (what a
> difference a letter makes), the "CE" aka "Compact Edition" runs on a
> variety of processors, the "ME" aks "Millenium Edition" runs only on
x86
> architectures. Then there is Windows "NT" which ran on x86, PowerPC,
> and Alpha, and "Windows 2K" which runs only on x86 again. Note you can
> buy all four of these operating systems from Microsoft today, confused
yet?
Yeah, and you can get all four in one package. Just ask for:
Windows CEMeNT 2000
SOrry guys, I just couldn't resist . . .
-- Jeff
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On February 14, LFessen106(a)aol.com wrote:
> I have a question that belongs on this list for sure.. Is it possible and
> legal to obtain a copy of an old version of SunOS or Solaris to run on these
> old machines? My personal opinion is that NetBSD or Linux would run better
> on them, but for historical interest it might be nice to have one running an
> old Solaris as well.
Nope. There are too many of these "old" machines (some running
older releases of either OS) still running in production at lots of
installations.
-Dave McGuire
In a message dated 2/13/01 6:51:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, jrasite(a)eoni.com
writes:
> This may be off-topic, but are there any SPARCstation users on the
> list? I just came into one with a missing hard drive and am looking
> for O/S information to make it live again.
>
> If it is O/T, please p-mail me. <mailto:jrasite@eoni.com>
>
> Jim
>
I have one, and a few other Sparcstations as well. They use standard scsi
drives although I would use a smaller capacity drive to avoid the extra heat
generated by a large capacity drive. I have run OpenBSD, Solaris 7, and
Linux on these. I much prefer Linux on them. NetBSD might be pretty good as
well although I haven't had the time to check that one out yet.
-Linc.
On Feb 13, 15:37, Jim Arnott wrote:
> This may be off-topic, but are there any SPARCstation users on the
> list? I just came into one with a missing hard drive and am looking
> for O/S information to make it live again.
I've got a Sparcstation 1+ which came diskless, and I worked out how to set
up a hard drive for it (it now has one internal and one external running
Soalris 2.3). If you can find a compatible SCSI CD-ROM drive (must be able
to be set to 512-byte blocks, like a Toshiba or Plextor) and Solaris media
(pre Solaris 8 for that architecture) it's easy to set up. Otherwise, try
Linux or BSD.
I can't offer much help over the next week or so as I'll be out of email
range :-( but happy to help when I get back.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
Hmm, that HP 85 reminds me of my oscilliscope (yes I know I cannot spell
that word unless I'm looking at the instrument), which is an HP 140A. The
'scope isn't a prototype, but one of the plugins has no serial number and is
inscribed "lab proto #3"... interesting, isn't it?
Will J
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