test-drb May 2001

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by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I still prefer what my dad calls it: A Dumb Machine. I don't see why people pay so much for those things, they're not even very good terminals. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

25 years

ID this board: M7165

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Thu, 24 May 2001 10:56:40 -0700 (PDT) Gene Buckle <geneb(a)deltasoft.com> writes: > It's for controlling drives like the RA81 and RA92. > > g. Yeah, it's SDI, according to the field guide. Dammit. > > On Thu, 24 May 2001, John Allain wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > This guy is auctioning a: > > Vax QBUS KDA50 Disk Ctl (M7165) > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1240600239 > > > > What sort of interface is this? It almost looks SMD. > > Guess it isn't, also rule out SCSI and MFM, by appearances. > > > > Standard disflamer: This is Not my auction. > > John A. > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

25 years

IBM 5161

by Glenatacme＠aol.com

One of these was in the middle of a big bunch of junk at the shop. Looks like it's got two 5 MB hard drives inside. A large-diameter cable is attached; evidently this connects to the "receiver" card in a PC. This may be distasteful, but I'm thinking of putting it on Ebay. Has anyone ever seen one of these sell before? If so, for how much??? Thanks. Glen 0/0

25 years

I stand corrected as I was working from faded memory. I knew I was in the right eria ;>

by brian.roth＠firstniagarabank.com

I stand corrected as I was working from faded memory. I knew I was in the right eria ;> Travesty all the same. Brian. ______________________________________________ -- brian roth <brian.roth(a)firstniagarabank.com> wrote: > Next time you take a cruise, ask the captain what country the ship is > registered in. Most likely it will be Nigeria. I thought the favored nation for cruise lines was Liberia (for its liberal inspection requirements, among other things). They do mention in the fine print on TV ads the registry of the ship. -ethan Brian Roth Network Services First Niagara Bank (716) 625-7500 X2186 Brian.Roth(a)FirstNiagaraBank.com

25 years

Xerox daybreak disk formatting question -- looong shot

by Alan.Pearson＠cramersystems.com

Whoa, 3 posts in one day, what's happenig to me :-) > I have a couple of daybreak machines with failing hard drives. I have the > 6085 offline diagnostic disk (2.0) which will format drives, but to do > formatting you need the system admin or tech support password. Does anyone > here happen to know one of these passwords? help! Yup - type "911" at the first menu prompt - after that you should get a lengthy message about how you shouldn't mess with commands if you don't know what you're doing (ie "call Xerox and we'll bill the s**t out of you for a 5 minute job")... Type "IAcceptTheRisk" at the second prompt (case doesn't actually matter, just did it for readability) and you should be in to the command prompt. A "?" shows you the options... Good luck! Al PS mesanet.com? Anything to do with the Mesa language?

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OT - Nigerian Pigeon Drop Scam

by brian.roth＠firstniagarabank.com

Next time you take a cruise, ask the captain what country the ship is registered in. Most likely it will be Nigeria. Its how these cruise lines get around the enviromental laws. Most if not all discharge their gray water(showers, laundry, kitchen waste) and black water(you guessed it!) untreated right into the sea. I wonder how many people would book a cruise knowing that their human waste would be blasted into the ocean by the ships macerator's. Brian. "Merle K. Peirce" wrote: It's also quite surprising how many Nigerians come here to run insurance scams, staging accidents, etc. Brian Roth Network Services First Niagara Bank (716) 625-7500 X2186 Brian.Roth(a)FirstNiagaraBank.com

25 years

Kbd UIs (was Re: ID computer

by mtapley＠swri.edu

All, wanted to add my ($/50) to this debate. In any discussion of what's the best UI, you have to be pretty careful to completely define your metric. It may include not only what you are doing, but also the time it takes you to learn (or teach someone else) how to do it, or other factors. Examples: 1) I've watched a vi wizard at work. He's *blindingly* fast accomplishing tasks (rewriting code, re-compiling, etc). I have extreme doubts that I could ever approach his speed with a CLI/vi interface. *But* I can already get close with a mouse text editor. With enough practice, maybe I could get close with vi or emacs. But I don't want to practice that much. 2) I do a fair amount of work on remote boxes. Some are far enough across the internet that xterm isn't practical, or I have to work over a modem line. Telnet and a CLI are absolutely indispensable to me in those situations (and MICROS~1 Windows would be absolutely impossible to use). 3) I use some graphics/drawing programs. I can imagine trying to use them with no mouse - but I recoil in horror at the thought. My bottom line: both interfaces is the way to go. I can learn easily to do things pretty fast with a mouse, and for tasks I don't do that often, that's usually what I want. I can do things on a remote machine better with a CLI, and sometimes that's what I want. Both have their place. - Mark

25 years

i860 pictures

by ip500＠home.com

Cruising eBay I came across this auction for a bunch of i860 boards and rack ...pulled from an Intel Paragon ..seems a shame to pull it to pieces rather than keep in intact [but it shre ships easier that way!] I HAVE NO CONNECTION with this auction ... just been following the thread and thought I'd mention it. Craig

25 years

IBM 5161

by Glenatacme＠aol.com

Mr. Ismail: Thank you for your prompt and kind reply. Please see my embedded comments below. In a message dated 5/24/01 2:58:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, foo(a)siconic.com writes: << I know what it is and what it does, So do I. A usenet search and a look at "Upgrading and Repairing PCs," first edition, produced this information. << and about how common it is. This I'm unsure of. << And I have one. Glad to hear it. << If you want any more specifics from me then I want 10% of whatever it << goes for on eBay. This is certainly a reasonable offer, *if* these specifics will add 10% to the sale price, and, since you seem so confident, you should have no problem forwarding this information to me so that I may determine the value of said information before agreeing to your terms. Please understand that I'm not a shameless money-grubber; I have never sold any computer equipment on Ebay before. I have been scratching my head for six months, trying to figure out what to do with this item other than just tossing it into the dumpster. Now I am in a position where I would like to sell it in order to obtain other classic computer items. Your recent comments suggest that you are not in favor of auctions being conducted on this list, so Ebay seemed to be my best venue for *converting* this unit into items I want, need, and will use. If you found my inquiry offensive, perhaps you can tell me what other group would be more informed about the current $$ value of classic computer items than the members of this list. Regards, Glen Goodwin 0/0

25 years

tape drives

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Tape trivia/comments It seems that the way to make a really accurate tape drive, such as those used for telemetry is to have two independently controlled capstans with sensors attached to each. The "old" vacuum column tape drives were really interesting to watch as the level of the tape oscillated up and down in the column. There are some technologies used with the Omnimax movie format that might be applicable to magnetic data storage. They place timing marks along the edge of the film to allow the system to detect and correct the speed of the film. The also can digitally encode the sound along the edge of the film, there are however separate attempts to coordinate sound on a CD with the film. I read an article about how CD's are cut out from a optical tape media which has lowered the cost of manufacture. It might be neat to make a storage media that was optical tape 3 inches wide. On a slightly different topic, there were early attempts to make video tape recorders that were not helical but used 256 parallel tracks each with a separate head. You could fastforward 1 minute by switching heads. Tape handling was much simpler that with helical. There was lots of tape wear because of the number of tape passes. The heads were also expensive. I have also heard that the 4mm DAT tapes are good for about 100 tape passes, this would seem to mean that weekly backups and verifies might destroy a tape. I know that the tolerance levels are not very good, it seems to be difficult to restore on a drive different than the one that was used to create the tape. Tape standards seems to be much more vague. I remember 800 bpi 9-Track tapes very fondly. I still have several. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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