> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jay West [mailto:jwest@classiccmp.org]
> Please read the entire message below from the list admin (who
> is trying very
> hard not to come out of his skin and choke someone)...
I, for one, wouldn't blame you if you did.
> You wrote...
> > > > I don't think Jay has enough time to manage the list anymore. I
> suggest
> > > > we find a new operator.
> What color is the sky in your world?
I don't recall whether I responded to this, myself,
but my response would have been along the same lines.
> As a side comment - It's rather amusing that some people have
> told me I do
> too much, others are now telling me I do too little. Hummm
Too much, in the sense of "you don't really have to
do all of this?" Or too much as in "you're getting
heavy handed?" I find the latter hard to believe,
but would agree with the former. It's been said
before, though, this is your list, no matter how much
some people may like to complain about it.
> For example - take a look at the subject of this thread "Big African
> Grifters". Hummm ya think maybe that might be something I
> wouldn't care to
> read? Why did I finally see this convo? Because someone had
I have to offer the observation that if everyone did
this, they'd just delete all the emails with the
subject "Make Money Fast@!@@!@!!!!", and this spam
thing would never come up. :)
Some people have a strange need to read every piece
of spam that they come across, even if they're
marked clearly.
> the forsight to
> put "list management" at the front of the subject. I submit
> that most people
> skim the list the same way I do, watching the subject lines
> for something
Well, see my comment above. ;)
> on the list privately about it, and I will announce my
> intended solution as
> soon as I am damn well ready to commit to something. Yes, I
Anyway, the point of this was to express my support
of your basically doing whatever you "damn well"
please with your time, resources, and mailing list.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
From: John Allain <allain(a)panix.com>
>> Get a VAXstation 2000, also called RD MFM disk
>> formater. The VS2k has a MFM disk formater in ROM.
>
>Will that work with any MFM drive geometry or only the
>four RDxx types that mVAXes like?
>
>John A.
Yes it will, however you need to supply the parameters for that
where the RDxx types are already known.
You should have two VS2000. They are small and they also make
a fun uVAX! The second of course is for formatting media.
Allison
OK, Friends & Neighbors.
First, I'm starting to think that the original tape is damaged. The
cptape utility suggested by Jochen seems to be Doing The Right Thing,
but gets errors. dd has no qualms at all as long as the TKZ50-GA is set
to a variable blocksize, but errors out on file #7. If I set
"conv=noerror" for dd to ignore read errors, it saws away forever at
the same file. And, if I boot the uVAX from either the original or the
one "probably good" copy [1], sometimes it sees the RD53 disks as RD51.
Not consistently. When it does, it hangs solid on a custom format.
I'll be putting the -GA on a VMS box this evening and try the VMSTPCE
copy. It makes sense to make the tape in its native OS.
[1] I did get a good set of files with the TUHS cptape. Problem is
that AFAICT the partner program, maketape, only understands 512*N
blocksizes. The diags tape has a lot of files in 80B blocks. The good
copy was made with dd, setting blocksize file by file. 82 files,
that is....
Anybody remember the Bash test statement for
[ FILE <larger-than> FILE] ? It would come in REAL handy, and I'm
having a brain-fart.
Doc
Err, whatcha gonna format the media on, Doc!
If memory serves... TRSDOS used delete address marks
and only a system with 1771 can write it... Oops!
It's possible there are later version that are cleaned in that
respect.
Allison
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard A. Cini, Jr. <rcini(a)optonline.net>
To: ClassCompList <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Sunday, March 17, 2002 9:54 PM
Subject: TRS80 Model 1 question
Hello, all:
I plan on playing with my old Model 1this weekend so that I can get the
floppy drive working. Since I suffer from random bit-rot, can someone tell
me which disk operating system shipped with the drive option? My system is a
48k Level II with the Percom controller and drive. I don't have any disks
for it any more, but I was going to use the TRS81 emulator to create new
disks for it.
Thanks.
Rich
Rich Cini
Collector of classic computers
Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project
Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
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I have the same hardware as on this message but again I no idea where to
start. Can anyone help me/point me as to where to start so I can start
experimenting with this box?.
Freddy Zapata
skate(a)ao.net
Ok,
The LK201, 301 and 401 are interchangeable, regardless of the cpu
used internally. There is NO VAX, Decmate, Pro version or
rainbow version save for different colored key caps. I regually swap
LKx01 where x={2,3,4} keyboards with any VAX, Decmate, VT220,
320, 330, 340, Pro3xx and friends. They all used the same cord set.
I happen to prefer older LK201 for keyfeel, and later LK401s for
the sculptured layout.
The LK250 however is a TOTALLY different animal and uses
different keycoding to be compatable with PCs or VAXmate
(a sorta PC). There are several different cordsets for this one.
Allison
-----Original Message-----
From: Carlini, Antonio <Antonio.Carlini(a)riverstonenet.com>
To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Monday, March 18, 2002 6:24 AM
Subject: RE: VT-320 Hack+Tip for Smokers
>>Maybe it's related to the age of the keyboards. All the ones I've worked
>>on originally came with VT220s or Bows/Pros/DECmates. I would guess the
>>6805 version came out later.
>
>I'm going to get this wrong here :-) but
>isn't the LK201 used on the VT220 (and
>later terminals) but the LK201 used on the
>Rainbow? (I guess that the Pro 380 et al.
>use the same keyboard as the Rainbow,
>but I don't have any of those).
>
>The LK201 specs are in one of the appandices
>that come with the VAXstation 3200 manuals
>(possibly in the separate VCB02 tech manual).
>The Rainbow tech manual almost certainly
>includes the LK250 spec (I have that scanned
>too, but it's not available anywhere yet, I think).
>
>If someone is looking to develop a PIC LK2xx
>implementation, it would be nice to handle
>both variants.
>
>Antonio
Been googling for info on the DEC RRD43 CD drive with
little success over the last couple of days. So, a
couple of questions for the DEC gurus out there:
Does anyone know what the various jumper settings are?
I'm trying to work out how the thing is currently
configured.
There are two "centronics-style" connectors on the back.
Do I need a terminator for one if the other's plugged
into a VAXstation?
What does it mean when the yellow LED flashes? At the
moment I don't have a cable to hook it up so I switched
it on standalone just to see what happened. The yellow
LED flashes and the only way I can open the CD tray is
to stick an unfolded paperclip into the release hole :-)
Is this something to worry about or just due to the drive
not being hooked up to the VAXstation?
TIA
Al.
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002; Loboyko Steve <sloboyko(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
VT320:
> I noted
> that there is a blanking plate on the back for the
> RS-232 port - all you have are the MMJ connectors for
> printer and i/o. I found out these connectors and
> their crimpers are hard to find/pricey, and I didn't
> want to spend a lot of money on these terminals. I
> considered removing the blanking plate, putting in the
> DB-25 connector (no place on my unit's PCB for one -
> odd),
Both the VT320 and VT420 have the blanking plate, both nowhere
in the manuals for either of them is there any mention of it.
My manuals all say 'North American' version of something similar.
I suspect a common case, and maybe a different circuit board for
those folks on the other side of the pond. Any confirmation?
LK201:
> I found a few of the keys didn't work right on
> one of them. This is one of those conductive rubber
> dome keyboards (and cheap and junky ones at that).
> They ask quite a bit for them on the 'net
> ("refurbished", usually meaning they blow the dirt out
> with compressed air).
With the LK201, blowing out the dirt is about the extent of it.
The keyboard assembly is such that you can not easily disassemble
it to do a good cleaning.
I had a couple that were really flaky, so I decided to try an
experiment. I soaked each of them in a solution for a few days,
hoping to dislodge some of the deep down crud. No success.
I salvaged the keycaps and disposed of the rest.
> I can find better PC keyboards new for around $4.99.
If you mean as in 'Wintel', they are not compatable.
> What to do.
1) I got a stack of untested LK201's. Stop by (Indiana) and
pick a couple up.
2) Try an LK401 instead. Being newer than an LK201, I have only
ran across one flaky one. The nice thing about the LK401 is
that you can tear down, clean, and reassemble one in a reasonable
amount of time.
> Well, I cut off
> about 3/16" of a cigarette filter (with the paper on)
> and put it in the tube above the torn dome connector.
> I trimmed it a bit after testing the feel of the key,
> and it works rather well, especially for my typing
> style (not particularly speedy and somewhat ham-fisted).
An imaginative fix! Ok folks, let's empty our ashtrays and
ship our butts off to Steve. ;^)
Mike
IIRC the Floppy on an Altos 580 is DSQD.
I had one that had the CMI hard drive replaced with a Seagate ST225. So I
know they will take similar configured Hard Drives. I think they will take
10, 15 and 20 Meg HDs.
Paxton
Astoria, Oregon
