CMOS = Complex _Megalithic_ Object Structures
The builders of Stonehenge used CMOS, while the builders of Woodhenge (near
Stonehenge), and some possibly similar (in function) structures at Cahokia,
in East St. Louis, Illinois, used TTL. ;-)
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Franchuk [mailto:bfranchuk@jetnet.ab.ca]
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 1:14 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Seen on RISKS-L
<snip>
BTW The Stonehenge circle is believed by some to be early calculator
( priest powered ) for calculating the major events of the seasons ,
stars ,
sun and moon cycles. Stonehenge era designers used a lot of
TTL ( timber^2 logic) rather than CMOS ( Complex Mon-Olithic Structures)
in the design.
--
Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu *
www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html
Thanks, Bill!
Just got home with my brand-spanking-old MVII and set about playing
with it. It's indecently clean inside, cables all in good shape, fans
all free and clean, cards well seated.
I even managed to get them all back in properly, in order, and the
cables connected right.
So let me see if I got this right, as this is the first working QBus
system I've gotten:
Boards, in order:
M7606-AF MV-II CPU (KA630-A) w/1M RAM & serial console line
M7608-BP 4M RAM card for KA630
M7609-AH 8M parity RAM " "
M7504 DEQNA ethernet
M7546 TQK50 tape controller
M9047 Grant card
M8053 DMV11 Serial controller
M3104 DHV11 8-port async serial DMA mux
2x M3107 DHQ11 " " " " "
Storage:
2x RD53-A 70M Micropolis 1325
RD54 190M Maxtor XT-2190
TK50 95M CompacTape drive
This means I would, if I had the distribution hardware for the DHQ11s,
have 25 serial interfaces? (plus console) What exactly is the DMV11?
"Synchronous communications controller" sounds like it requires a DMV11
on the other end as well.
Everything VMS I've looked at says the DEQNA is unsupported in VMS
>v5.2. Is that unsupported as in "don't call DEC/Compaq/HP", or
unsupported as in "it don't work"? Am I stuck with NetBSD then? Does
anyone know if NBSD will mop-boot over the DEQNA? I don't have VMS
older than 6.2.
Anybody have 2 breakout boxes for the M3107, and no M3107? We could
equalize.... For that matter, if anybody needs the card, I'll just
share.
Oh yeah. It boots. VMS 5.2, but it's looking for the rest of a
cluster, and apparently a lot of its filespace was remote. Bummer.
Other than that, and the fact that I can't get it upstairs, it's a cool
"little" box.
You know you're over the edge when the lack of ethernet access in your
garage is a problem.
Doc
Thanks everyone.
The two Pros are claimed.
In the future there may be other hardware but, not alot.
I'm not getting out it's more a selection process as I
with to run more of the peices and that takes space.
Allison
> Subject: Re: OpenSTEP for VMS
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 14:44:44 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com>
> In-Reply-To: <no.id> from "Christopher Smith" at Mar 05, 2002 04:33:20 PM
> Sender: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
>
> > I have heard that OpenSTEP ran on VMS (Alpha) at one point.
> >
> > Having never heard of, nor seen this, I am curious, and would
> > like to acquire a copy of this miraculous thing to run at home
> > (on a hopefully soon-to-be-had DEC 3000, using the VMS hobbyist
> > license...)
> >
> > Does anyone have any idea where to get it?
> >
> > Chris
>
> First I've heard of it. It primarily ran on NeXT hardware (of course), x86
> systems, and had limited support for HP and Sparc. I've *never* heard VMS
> mentioned as having any sort of an OPENSTEP environment.
There was a time when some Alpha AXP enthusiasts who, I believe, worked
for a European subsidiary of DEC, started to port NeXTstep to the Alpha
hardware. To us NeXT fans, this seemed too good to be true, and mostly
that's how it ended up. Unsupported, unloved, and unfinished.
carl
--
carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego
clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu
From: Christopher Smith <csmith(a)amdocs.com>
>
>That is more or less what I said, I think. :) I didn't mean that
>they didn't work at all, just that they'd had a lot of problems
>with them (so I hear), and replaced them because of it.
Actually the DEQNA was a burr in the VMS bottom since V4.2
or before. It wasn't a problem of getting 5.xx to work with it
but rather a matter of finally saying time to retire the turkey.
Likely 5.5 will work with it.
>Tried 5.5? I have that version, so it would be interesting to know.
Nope, dont have a copy. Did try 7.2 and it seems to work.
Allison
No problem; if someone else hasn't already fixed you (Rich & Ethan) up,
I can dig out the ROM images or (if I can't find the disks) recreate them.
Write me off-list and, if still required, what format (Intel/Mot/bin?).
Just to make sure yours are correctly installed, the last 2 digits of the ROM
specify the location, so the BASIC ROMs are R3225 & R3226 and
should be inserted in sockets Z25 & Z26 respectively (Cxxx & Bxxx address blocks).
And the monitor is in Z22&Z23 (R3222 & R3223), but sounds like it's OK.
As Tony mentions elsewhere the 2332's could be mask-programmed various ways,
and later model AIM65s had jumpers to select 2732/2532, but the AIM65 ROMs
are 2532 pinout; 2732's would need a couple of pins exchanged unless you have one
of the later AIMs (I assume yours is the 1K/4K version)..
At least two different types of keyboards were used, but nothing special about either.
I have a few brand new ones left if you need one (Don't worry, Jeff, one still has
your name on it :). Might also still have some manual sets as soon as I figure out
who's getting what, and several spare AIMs for parts.
mike
---------------------Original Message----------------------
>Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 15:41:02
From: "Rich Beaudry" <r_beaudry(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: AIM-65 Questions
Hello all,
I recently completed a trade for an AIM-65 that is about 80-90% working, but
needs a little TLC. Hopefully someone here can help....
It appears to have the BASIC ROMs installed, and in the right sockets, but
pressing "5" on the keyboard only results in the "<5>" display, and then the
AIM hangs up. Only a press of the Reset button will free it up. I suspect
the ROMs may be flaky, since one had quite a bit of (for lack of a better
word) gunk on the tops of the pins. I cleanied it all off, but there may be
some internal damage. These ROMs are part number 2332. I suspect these are
2732-compatible, at least in read mode, and not program mode... Does anyone
have a ROM dump in Hex format? If so, could you email it to me so I can
burn new ones?
Actually, while I'm at it, if anyone has ANY of the AIM-65 ROMs dumped in
Hex format, I'd appreciate copies. Then I could burn a whole new set...
Also, the keyboard needs cleaning pretty badly. Unfortunately, I do not
remember the manufacturer name or model #, but it is the standard AIM-65
keyboard. Has anyone ever fully taken one apart to clean it? If so, any
gotchas?
Thanks!
Rich B.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe [mailto:rigdonj@cfl.rr.com]
> Does anyone have a manual for one of these? I bought one
> for $1 and now
> I know why. The 5V PS was putting out about 20 volts! I've
Wow, they "upgraded" the power supply... that's a good deal ;)
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
> Does anyone have documentation or software for the Intel iPSC/1, TI
> Explorer II or Symbolics 3620 that they'd be willing to share?
TI Explorer docs can be found at http://www.unlambda.com/lispm/explorer-docs/
As I mentioned a few weeks ago, he's trying to locate an original Explorer.
--
Check with Paul Pierce re iPSC/1's
I'm going to claim this is on topic since it's for my
SPARCStation2 which is 10 years old.
To make a (semi-)long story short, I've come to the
conclusion that I need a SCSI1 to SCSI3 adapter with
high byte termination to connect a wide IBM SCSI drive
to the narrow SCSI controller in my SS2. The only
IDC50M to MD68M adapter I've found doesn't have the
termination. There's a nice little adapter out there
but it's got female connectors on both ends. I could
try to assemble something with gender changers, but
I'm afraid I'd end up spending more than I did on
the drive for a Frankenstien that I'm not even sure
would work.
So my question is, does anyone know where to find an
adapter with male connectors? Or, for that matter,
has anyone dealt with this sort of thing and have
a better suggestion?
Thanks in advance,
Brian L. Stuart
