> From: Roger Merchberger
>
> Rumor has it that David Woyciesjes may have mentioned these words:
>
> >> And I thought finding compatible memory for my 3000/300 would be bad!
> >> Anyone have a list of the compatible memory vendors for that beastie?
> >>
> >- Didn't Doc just offer some?
>
> Yes, as a matter of fact he did... right after I clicked *send*... ;-)
>
***chuckle chuckle***
Well, now you should be all set.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu]
> > Well, my m38 actually has an lk201, hockey-puck mouse, and 20"
> > color monitor.
> - oh, quit bragging so loud... ;)
Well, err... I have a _MicroVAX_ 3100/m38, with a vt320. *duck* ;)
> - What's with the mice with two wierd looking button
> things, instead
> of a ball?
Pretty simple, really. The "button things" spin. Depending on
which axis the mouse is following, one or the other button will
do the spinning because of the way they're tilted. Nice design. I
like them much better than ball mice.
It seems most people do. Even in my pile of "spare" mice, I only
have one of those. I also have the one on my m38, which was
originally a ball mouse, but got replaced.
> > At any rate, this impressive stack of peripherals makes that
> > VAXStation 2000 about the same size as any other MicroVAX, except
> > that it comes apart rather than having wheels.
> - Until you put it on a utility cart... ;)
I have thought about that -- or one of those little square plastic
things with casters that little kids scoot around on in school :)
> > Also worth mentioning is that it's one of what I assume was an
> > older series of VAXStation 2000s with no AUI on the back (co-ax
> > only).
> - Interesting...
One of perhaps two I've seen like that. I don't know whether to
replace the casing with one that's got the AUI port, or keep it
this way for the novelty.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
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> From: Doc
>
> On Tue, 21 May 2002, David Woyciesjes wrote:
>
> > - Yeah, my 3100m38 has 32MB also. I'm just not positive if he's
> > identifying the boards right. I mean, he's not even positive. :)
>
> 32M is max, and there's 4 onboard, so you typically see a 16M card
> with a 12M daughterboard.
> Does anybody on this list _not_ own an m38? :)
>
> Doc
>
Isn't the VAXStation 3100m38 standard-issue as the ClassicCmp
beginner's VAX?
Doc, how many people have the LK201(?) keyboard, hockey-puck mouse, and
Digital 19" mono monitor that sold with their m38? Well, besides me & Linc
;)
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Rumor has it that David Woyciesjes may have mentioned these words:
>> 32M is max, and there's 4 onboard, so you typically see a 16M card
>> with a 12M daughterboard.
>> Does anybody on this list _not_ own an m38? :)
>>
>> Doc
>>
> Isn't the VAXStation 3100m38 standard-issue as the ClassicCmp
>beginner's VAX?
>Doc, how many people have the LK201(?) keyboard, hockey-puck mouse, and
>Digital 19" mono monitor that sold with their m38? Well, besides me & Linc
>;)
Well, I didn't *purchase* my 3100, but it did come with it's original
keyboard, mouse & 17" Color monitor... and I have the 8-plane 2Meg grafix
board for it, too... too bad I couldn't figure out how to use it... :-(
and now I don't have the room to set it up just yet... I have to refurb &
run power to my 3rd floor "future" office / hamshack / sewing room / etc...
I don't even have my QMS Color Laser set up yet, so I can't start printing
the relevant dox yet... :-(
Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
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Rumor has it that David Woyciesjes may have mentioned these words:
>- I'll try to remember to bring my camera, and snap a pic of them for
>you tomorrow...
That would be cool...
>> And I thought finding compatible memory for my 3000/300 would be bad!
>> Anyone have a list of the compatible memory vendors for that beastie?
>>
>- Didn't Doc just offer some?
Yes, as a matter of fact he did... right after I clicked *send*... ;-)
Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu]
> Isn't the VAXStation 3100m38 standard-issue as the ClassicCmp
> beginner's VAX?
> Doc, how many people have the LK201(?) keyboard, hockey-puck
> mouse, and
> Digital 19" mono monitor that sold with their m38? Well,
> besides me & Linc
> ;)
Well, my m38 actually has an lk201, hockey-puck mouse, and 20"
color monitor.
I do have a DEC 17" or so mono monitor, and now plenty of extra
lk201s and hockey-puck mice.
My first working VAX was a 2000, which now has just about every
VAXStation 2000 accessory that you could want except the color
KVM breakout and a monitor ;) (Yes, it does have the color option,
as well as the external second RD54, and external TK50) I think
the only thing missing is the external floppy (I only surmise that
this exists, and may be what plugs into that other port on the
expansion box -- could be wrong), and a decent memory board. It
would be nice to put an 8M, 12M, etc, board in it.
At any rate, this impressive stack of peripherals makes that
VAXStation 2000 about the same size as any other MicroVAX, except
that it comes apart rather than having wheels.
Also worth mentioning is that it's one of what I assume was an
older series of VAXStation 2000s with no AUI on the back (co-ax
only).
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
> On Tue, 21 May 2002, Lawrence Walker wrote:
>
> > While this is true in urban centers, it certainly isn't for those of us
> > that live in the boonies. I did acquire an Itellevision with an Adam
> > tho. A local junk warehouse also has a bunch of HP stuff stuck away on
> > the 3rd floor gathering dust that I have to catalogue for the list,
> > since I know ziltch about HPs.
>
> The most important thing to finding old computers is to look in places
> that you hadn't considered before. Think to yourself, "Who around here
> would have had a need for computers 10 or 20 or 30 years ago?" Then find
> places that fit the "who" and start investigating.
Around here (Louisville, KY) those places are in a part of town that,
well, you are likely to be stopped and searched on the assumption
you are on your way to a crack house. Other parts of town you'll
simply be shot at.
> The key is to GET OUT THERE AND LOOK! I walked many, many, many miles to
> amass my collection. Unless you like eBay, and even if you do, you won't
> find the really cool stuff sitting behind your CRT.
>
> And you'll have much more fun and much better stories to tell in the end.
If you survive... Y'all come out here for a visit sometime, Sellam...
I'll protect you as best I can, brother!
;)
> From: Roger Merchberger
>
> Rumor has it that David Woyciesjes may have mentioned these words:
>
> >Well, my 3000/400 uses, I believe, 100-pin memory SIMMs. Looks like
> >regular PC EDO stuff from a distance. But they're really abut 5 or 6
> inches
> >long. There are 4 daughterboards, in the /400, each of which holds 4
> SIMMs,
> >totaling 16 100-pins SIMMs in there...
>
> Yeouch! That sounds 1)wicked, ;-)
>
- I'll try to remember to bring my camera, and snap a pic of them for
you tomorrow...
> and 2)expensive... :-(
>
- I'm not sure, haven't really seen any around to gauge the prices!
> And I thought finding compatible memory for my 3000/300 would be bad!
> Anyone have a list of the compatible memory vendors for that beastie?
>
- Didn't Doc just offer some?
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> From: Doc
>
> On Tue, 21 May 2002, Roger Merchberger wrote:
> >
> > >And good news is he's got RAM for auction, for my DEC 3000/400!
> Woo-hoo!
> >
> > Sure... I'm sure you didn't post _that_ link to keep me bidding against
> you
> > for that -- for my DEC 3000/300! Mine's only got 64Meg; and I heard VMS
> is
> > rather doggy in that amount... (tho I'd doubt that it'd be any worse
> than
> > Tru64 Unix, but that's just speculation...)
>
> You guys, that's just plain old generic 36-bit parity SIMMs. How much
> memory do you need? Yes, tested in my 3000/300x, if you want....
>
>
> Doc
>
For the /300x, yeah that does sound right. Couldn't find any actual
info around here for that. Roger will be happy to hear that offer...
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Just got this posting from my Model 'T' mailing list...
>>>>
Mailing-List: contact m100-help(a)list.30below.com; run by ezmlm
Reply-To: m100(a)list.30below.com
From: "Charles Good"
Subject: Classic Computer and Gaming Show Saturday near Cleveland
Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:06:03 -0400
A Model 100 system will be on display at Saturday's CCAG show near
Cleveland Ohio. See below and check the web site for maps and more details.
Charles Good
<mailto:cgood@nicsweb.com>cgood(a)nicsweb.com
-------------------------------------------------
For Immediate Release to all Internet and related groups!
The Classic Computer And Gaming(CCAG) Show 2002 is on!
"We, the CCAG organizers, regret that it took so long to officially announce
the CCAG 2002 Show. However, we are also very glad that the CCAG 2001 Show
did NOT take place after September 11th, 2001. Had CCAG 2001 taken place
after 9-11, we would have had to cancel. Because we had used a National
Guard Armory for the previous two CCAG's, we were not able to rent the
Armory again after the events of 9-11. We have been able to locate and
secure a facility for CCAG 2002! We again apologize for the delay, as we
were only able to know
with certainty, in the past several days. See you all at the CCAG 2002!!!"
CCAG 2002 Staff
The Classic Computer And Gaming Show 2002 will be held on May 25th, 2002
>from 8AM till 2 PM. Vendor setup is on the 24th from 5:30PM till 9PM, and
>from 6:30AM till 8AM on the 25th. Show location is at the St. John Lutheran
Church, 11333 Granger Road, Garfield Hts. Ohio, 44125.
Here is our own site for more information and current status
of vendors and attendees.
<http://www.ccagshow.com>www.ccagshow.com
Table rental is $5 this year, and admission is only $2. The admission fee
will also allow you to be eligeble for a drawing at 1PM, the 25th, for an
Arcade machine! (You will need a way to take the machine home with you!)
The web site, <http://www.ccagshow.com>www.ccagshow.com, has site info,
table layouts,
map info, etc.
We hope to see you there at the CCAG 2002!
<<<<
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