>As I understand it the marker was on the white paper not the plastic.
>If so it is unlikely to remove the writing without damaging the paper.
If this is the case, then the fix is very easy - cut a strip of white
paper the size needed to fit behing "IMSAI 8080" and place it on top of
the damaged portion of the existing white paper - Once the screws are
firmly in place, it will not move.
I recall Rich saying the marker was on "the silkscreen" which I took to
mean the transparent/coated film that covers the white paper and blocks
out "everywhere that shouldn't be white" ... if this is the case then
the marker has to come off, or the film be replaced.
Regards,
Dave
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Hi Rich
Try things like "goof off" as well. I've used rubbing
alcohol to remove marker from plastic in the past with
reasonable results. If it has soaked into the surface,
there is not much that will remove it.
Dwight
>From: "Cini, Richard" <Richard.Cini at wachovia.com>
>
>Dave:
>
> Interesting. I guess that I'll stop by Staples on the way home and
>pick up a bottle of the whiteboard cleaner. I did ask the donator what the
>story was with the blacked-out logo but I haven't heard from him yet. If he
>used a Sharpie marker, I'm not sure that I can get that off without damaging
>the plastic. Maybe WD40?
>
> Like I mentioned, Todd Fischer is selling new computer-generated
>masks rather than the photomasks used originally. He claims that the
>graphics are sharper and clearer than the original. I would keep the
>original photomask in storage anyway. Seeing the logo is more important to
>me than keeping the mask vintage.
>
>Rich
>
>=============================
>Richard A. Cini, Jr.
>Director
>Wachovia Capital Finance
>1133 Avenue of the Americas
>New York, NY 10036
>W: 212-545-4402
>F: 212-545-4589
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
>On Behalf Of Dave Dunfield
>Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:23 AM
>To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
>Subject: RE: IMSAI Score update/Spare BYTEs/Got an Altair too
>
>>OK, I pulled the front panel appart tonight and I found out that whoever
>>owned this model colored the silkscreen with magic marker. Bogus!
>>
>>Anyway, I can get a new photomask from Todd Fischer for $20. Well worth
>>it.
>
>I was afraid of that ... Although it's good that you can get a replacement,
>keeping it all original has merit as well - depending on the marker used,
>you might be able to carefully remove it. Try a Q-tip with some whiteboard
>cleaner and move up to stronger solutions as required.
>
>Regards,
>Dave
>--
>dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield
>dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com
>com Collector of vintage computing equipment:
> http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html
>
>
Adobe Acrobat has almost unlimited manipulation capabilities. You can
rearrange pages, add pages (from almost any format .... word documents,
JPEGs, other PDFs, scanners, TIFF .... just about anything), rotate pages,
delete pages, and export pages as graphic images (in just about any format).
You can export pages, do "whatever" to them, and reimport them.
Also, it may be possible to "re-image" the entire PDF file to shrink it's
size, although I've not done that. If you drop any requirement for
compatibility with versions of Acrobat versions 4 and earlier (the current
version is 7), the files can be shrunk dramatically, although I'm not sure
if there is an easy one-step way to do this in the "standard" version (there
is a separate stand-alone PDF file optimizer in the "pro" version). In my
own view, Acrobat versions 4 and earlier are now too old to be productively
used.
Of course, I'm talking about "full version" Adobe Acrobat, not simply the
[free] "Acrobat Reader".
There is an ISO standard for PDF/X. An ISO standard for PDF/A has just been
(or will soon be adopted).
Message: 8
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:42:21 +0000
From: Jules Richardson <julesrichardsonuk at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Question about PDF manipulation
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
<snip>
But there is a question of whether conversion to PDF throws important data
away, or whether Adobe might suddenly change the tools, or whether they'll
carry on getting ever more
bloated, or whether PDF's going to be a viable format in ten years time...
<snip>
> The CPU is a PDP-11/44 with additional labels indicating it was a
> Teradyne Teranet ATE Networking System, whatever that is. In addition
> to the CPU, the tall cabinet (purple and orange DEC banner across the
Whoa, dain bramage. That should read "purple and magenta".
De
Dave:
Interesting. I guess that I'll stop by Staples on the way home and
pick up a bottle of the whiteboard cleaner. I did ask the donator what the
story was with the blacked-out logo but I haven't heard from him yet. If he
used a Sharpie marker, I'm not sure that I can get that off without damaging
the plastic. Maybe WD40?
Like I mentioned, Todd Fischer is selling new computer-generated
masks rather than the photomasks used originally. He claims that the
graphics are sharper and clearer than the original. I would keep the
original photomask in storage anyway. Seeing the logo is more important to
me than keeping the mask vintage.
Rich
=============================
Richard A. Cini, Jr.
Director
Wachovia Capital Finance
1133 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10036
W: 212-545-4402
F: 212-545-4589
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Dave Dunfield
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:23 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: RE: IMSAI Score update/Spare BYTEs/Got an Altair too
>OK, I pulled the front panel appart tonight and I found out that whoever
>owned this model colored the silkscreen with magic marker. Bogus!
>
>Anyway, I can get a new photomask from Todd Fischer for $20. Well worth
>it.
I was afraid of that ... Although it's good that you can get a replacement,
keeping it all original has merit as well - depending on the marker used,
you might be able to carefully remove it. Try a Q-tip with some whiteboard
cleaner and move up to stronger solutions as required.
Regards,
Dave
--
dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield
dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com
com Collector of vintage computing equipment:
http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html
>OK, I pulled the front panel appart tonight and I found out that whoever
>owned this model colored the silkscreen with magic marker. Bogus!
>
>Anyway, I can get a new photomask from Todd Fischer for $20. Well worth
>it.
I was afraid of that ... Although it's good that you can get a replacement,
keeping it all original has merit as well - depending on the marker used,
you might be able to carefully remove it. Try a Q-tip with some whiteboard
cleaner and move up to stronger solutions as required.
Regards,
Dave
--
dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield
dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com
com Collector of vintage computing equipment:
http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html
> Yes, you're right...I guess now I can cross it off the list (Austin
>Powers is one of my favorite movies BTW. Yeah, baby!). However, if you
>already have an [insert rare machine name here] and someone offered you a
>second one of the same for the cost of shipping, would you (or anyone on
>this list) turn it down unless they were seriously out of space?
Besides, the next Altair might be an original 8800 or an 8800-A ... I have
two 8800's, but I would love to get a -A and a -B as well (and I wouldn't
turn down another 8800 either :-)
> Time to watch War Games...
Yeah, when I finally got my IMSAI a couple of months ago, I actually bought
the Wargames DVD just so I could show my kids that the computer was in the
movie (and I wanted to see it again as well).
regards,
Dave
--
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dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com
com Collector of vintage computing equipment:
http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html
I got an HP brochure in the snail mail today, the kind of insert they put
into Sunday newspapers... I flipped through it and noticed in the PocketPC
section that the sample screen image showed the standard "today" listing...
The list said "Owner: Peter Gibbons" and the task item was "Review TPS
reports."
Gotta love nerd humor. It was a fairly tiny font, so I wonder how many
people will notice the joke.
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Mike:
Yes, you're right...I guess now I can cross it off the list (Austin
Powers is one of my favorite movies BTW. Yeah, baby!). However, if you
already have an [insert rare machine name here] and someone offered you a
second one of the same for the cost of shipping, would you (or anyone on
this list) turn it down unless they were seriously out of space?
Time to watch War Games...
Rich
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Michael Holley
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:56 PM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: IMSAI Score update/Spare BYTEs/Got an Altair too
Rich,
I checked out your web site and you have an IMSAI and an Altair on your
wanted list. You can be like Austin Powers and scratch those off the list.
Michael Holley
> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 21:55:36 -0400
> From: "Richard A. Cini" <rcini at optonline.net>
> Subject: IMSAI Score update/Spare BYTEs/Got an Altair too
> To: CCTalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Rich Cini
> Collector of classic computers
> Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project
> Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
