>> Beyond that, you can easily spend more upgrading than a faster newer
>> machine would cost you on the used market. That said...
>
> Nah, I'm just trying to figure out the Mac "culture". I want to get
> my currently unused workstation monitor on the G3 and poke around a
> bit.
Forget about OS X then, and think about the evolution of a computer from
a 128K 68000 through a G4 with a gigabyte of memory.
There are still applications that will run on the last version of OS 9
that were written for the original Mac.
Mac users would typically have many times the number of applications
than a Windows user, mostly because most had no installation
requirements other than dragging the app onto the system. Drivers and
system extensions were easily added by putting them in the Extensions
folder inside of System. The way some of them worked (patching into
system calls) sometimes resulted in system conflicts.
The biggest problem in the 68K Mac world was a holdover from the
earliest days of trying to fit into a tiny memory footprint. The
flat 68K address space was segmented to create position independent
code chunks that could move around as the system compacted memory.
Unfortunately, the data space was also segmented, so the APIs often had
64K restrictions on data areas.
PPC Macs got rid of that, and went to a flat memory model, which made
programming applications with large code/data footprints MUCH easier.
The big problem with the MacOS was there really was no architecture.
Features were tacked on, including things like two different shared
library architecutres on PPC because they evolved through two different
devlopment groups. In the end the API was a "Mactintosh Mystery House",
with dead-end APIs, and APIs that were bloated and ridiculously
over-engineered (Comm Toolbox, for instance).
Adherence to backwards compatibility really was why it was impossible
for Apple to come up with a replacement for MacOS until someone (Jobs)
finally cut the cord. This was impossible from the bottom up, no one at
the top was willing to have old applications break en mass.
Hi All,
I'm going to Philadelphia, PA for two weeks.
I collect Motorola MVME computers and I would like
to find some spares to take back to Europe.
Do You know any places near and good places even far
to find classic computer parts.
I have a weekend to spare and I have a car.
BR,
Matti.
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> Can someone tell me if the DEC
> RK03 was actually a rebadged Diablo 30?
RK02 == Diablo 31 with 1100bpi heads (1.25mb)
RK03 == Diablo 31 with 2200bpi heads (2.5mb)
There was also an RK01, used with the RK8 contoller
but it is not a Diablo drive.
At 22:28 -0600 1/6/07, Zane wrote:
> Of course if you want to be able to surf from this system,
>Mac OS X is pretty much a requirement. There is no modern web
>browser for Mac OS 9.
Were it not for the adjective "modern", I'd say:
http://www.icab.de/ (as has been mentioned)
http://www.opera.com/ (find Version 6.0.3 on their website)
With the "modern" it becomes a bit more debateable. They do still run, though.
--
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(I haven't cleared my neighborhood)
210-379-4635 Dwarf Phone, 210-522-6025 Office Phone
I don't know anything about HP minis, so I don't know what to look for,
but for those on the list that have HPs and might be interested...
The main unit: item # 320060663740
The FP unit: item # 320060663048
No bids yet.
J
Hallo Paul,
Found your link in a discussion forum on
>> From: "James E Cosper" <jec at jcosper.com>
To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 7:00 PM
Subject: Heathkit ETA-3400 Modifications
I am searching very hard the images of ET-3400/ETA-3400 ROMs 444-24/444-51. I
would be very happy to find someone, who has these equipment and can make a
dump/punch to a file from the ROM address ranges 1400-23FF and F800-FFFF (MON>P
1400,23FFcr + MON>P F800-FFFFcr). May be you have any info for me? Many thanks
in advance and best regards from Austria
peter
peter.hofmann at chello.at
but what were the differences besides the keyboard?
They must have had similar internals.
--- cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
<wgungfu at csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
> >I take it the 800 was the successor to the 400, the
> >1st unit my fingers ever typed on.
>
>
> No, the 800 was released at the same time as the
400. 400 was the "lower
> end games computer", 800 was the "more serious"
higher end computer.
>
>
> Marty
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> On 6 Jan 2007 at 16:40, Richard wrote:
>
> > Wasn't there some discussion recently looking for < 10 GB drives?
> >
> > There's a bunch of 2.5GB drives on dovebid right now...
>
> Quantum Bigfoot--bleah. Miserable things.
Yeah, I would'nt rely on Bigfoot drives, too. They are *very* low-cost and so is the quality and therefore reliability.
We had several of these which gave up work quite quickly.
One should try to avoid them.
Regards,
Pierre
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