test-drb June 2007

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by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 11:38 PM 6/6/2007, Dave Mitton wrote: >I'd used to say that I produced the last implementation of DECnet Phase IV in PathWORKS for Windows 95. >But these guys doing the Linux DECnet have taken that away from me. >http://linux-decnet.sourceforge.net/ Circa 1991, my company made and sold a version of DECnet for the Amiga, a licensed port of a Mac DECnet called TSSnet from Thursby Software. Thursby's was originally written in Mac Pascal. We ported that to C on top of the Amiga's SANA II network stack, which allowed you to run other network stacks like TCP/IP at the same time. It worked with X Window and included NCP, Netmail (which I wrote from scratch), network file copy and file access listener. - John

18 years, 1 month

DEC parts code reference?

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Out of interest (and to my shame, without googling first :-), did DEC (or a third party) ever produce a reference listing of DEC "parts codes" against function (e.g. RK05 = removable disk, KL11 = serial interface etc.) I'm trying to sort out our documentation archives, and DEC seem very good at just listing the codes as title ("DZ11-C technical manual" etc.) on a lot of their docs - meaning I have to skim pages to get a handle on what the thing actually is) cheers Jules

18 years, 1 month

DECnet on the 'net

by jkunz＠unixag-kl.fh-kl.de

On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 00:38:21 -0400 Dave Mitton <dave at mitton.com> wrote: > I seem to remember that there was a group of people bridging their > DECnet over TCP to connect various sites over the Internet. I can't > seem to find them this minute. http://www.update.uu.se/~bqt/hecnet.html -- tsch??, Jochen Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/

18 years, 1 month

DECnet on the 'net

by dave＠mitton.com

On 6/6/2007 06:27 PM, cctech-request at classiccmp.org wrote: >Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 13:31:03 -0400 >From: "Bill Pechter" <pechter at gmail.com> >Subject: Re: DECnet and MOP >To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > >On 6/6/07, der Mouse <mouse at rodents.montreal.qc.ca> wrote: > > > > > I still have copies of all the Phase IV era DNA specs. > > > > I don't suppose you have softcopies? Or that someone else has them > > available for fetch? > > > > I'd like to have a stab at implementing DECnet. (Not because I have > > any production use for it; just as part of my drive to understand > > everything - nothing teaches a protocol like implementing it.) > > > > /~\ The ASCII der Mouse > > \ / Ribbon Campaign > > X Against HTML mouse at rodents.montreal.qc.ca > > / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B > > > >Softcopies linked to on >http://linux-decnet.sourceforge.net/docs/doc_index.html > >-- Great pointer. That's a copy of stuff rescued from Decwrl after Compaq took over. I'd almost forgotten all the time spent in Runoff. I'd used to say that I produced the last implementation of DECnet Phase IV in PathWORKS for Windows 95. But these guys doing the Linux DECnet have taken that away from me. http://linux-decnet.sourceforge.net/ If you're interested in learning how DECnet works, that implementation is freely accessible. PS: There is a Debian MOP daemon here http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/mopd I seem to remember that there was a group of people bridging their DECnet over TCP to connect various sites over the Internet. I can't seem to find them this minute. Dave.

18 years, 1 month

More Seattle Spring Cleaning - HP 7980A / M4 9914 9-track tape drives

by glen.slick＠gmail.com

Anyone in the Seattle area looking for a 9-track tape drive project? I have one HP 7980A HPIB and two M4 9914 SCSI/Pertec drives. These are front loading / auto loading units. Unfortunately they need some work to be fully functional. The problem with both M4 units may be limited to the tach rollers not accurately rolling along with the tape motion. I had one of the M4 units working briefly a couple of months ago. If anyone local wants these let me know with a private reply. These are too big and heavy to deal with shipping. -Glen

18 years, 1 month

Apple II

by swtpc6800＠comcast.net

There are various news stories about the 30th anniversary of the Apple II computer. My favorite story is that I had Apple II serial number 2 for evaluation. At the time I was working at a computer store in San Mateo, California. The owner, Chet Harris, when down to the Apple factory one Saturday in June of 1977 and came back with the first two completed units. (This must have been June 4.) He had sold serial number 1 to a friend of his and I got serial number 2. After a few weeks the power supply failed and it was sent back to Apple. Jef Raskin ended up with this unit. You can read about it here: http://www.swtpc.com/mholley/Apple/allied_computer.htm Apple started selling the Apple II boards around April of 1977. They were having problems with the plastic case, the early production units did not have the vents on the side. You can see that in the picture of serial number 2. http://www.swtpc.com/mholley/Apple/Jef_Raskin_Apple.jpg A customer at the store, Bill Kelly, was doing the advertising campaign for Apple and he got a prototype Apple II board. I built a linear power supply for it and traded it to him for an Intel SDK-80 board. Here is his web site: http://www.kelleyad.com/Histry.htm Here is a page that shows the my SDK-80 board. http://www.swtpc.com/mholley/Homebrew/Homebrew.htm Even though I went to the Homebrew Computer club, looked at the Apple I, and I had use of a Apple II; I have never owned an Apple computer. Michael Holley www.swtpc.com/mholley

18 years, 1 month

New DEC problem

by RodSmallwood＠mail.ediconsulting.co.uk

Nisc_load.exe R -----Original Message----- From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Antonio Carlini Sent: 06 June 2007 17:49 To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Subject: RE: New DEC problem Rod Smallwood wrote: > Hi > > Boot, well sort of. Its down loading a file from a boot server using > BOOT EZA0 (The ethernet port). > That it does OK and on the boot server it says download OK. > However it does not run the downloaded file. I may have the wrong one. If it manages to download something (and thinks that it is successful) then that sounds like a non-fatal error. What are you downloading? Antonio

18 years, 1 month

My Collection Profile

by RodSmallwood＠mail.ediconsulting.co.uk

Voltage problems apart what do you have? Rod -----Original Message----- From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Paul Anderson Sent: 06 June 2007 18:33 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: My Collection Profile Hi Rod, I have most of the items on your wish list, but I'm in the states. Thanks, Paul On 6/5/07, Rod Smallwood <RodSmallwood at mail.ediconsulting.co.uk> wrote: > > The story so far: > > VAX 4000-200 x1 > > VAX 4000-300 x1 > > PDP11/94 x4 No CPU cards > > SA600 (4 x RA92) x1 > > SA600 (2 x RA92) x1 > > VT420 x3 > > VT320 x1 > > VT330 x1 > > LA75 x3 > > > > > > Of these, plus other (Non-Dec kit) for sale or swap > > (All funds to save other old DEC kit) > > PDP 11/94 (No cpu cards) x2 > > VT 420 x2 > > LA75 x2 > > HP 700 Terminal x1 > > HP 2392A Terminal x1 > > Shiva LAN Rover x1 > > Victor PC in pristine condx. X1 > > SA600 (2 x RA92) x1 > > Wish list > > PDP-8/E > > KDJ11-BF (M8190-AE) x 4 Replacements for the missing 11/94 CPU > > MSV11-JE x 4 " " 11/94 Memory > > VT05 > > VT100 > > VT220 > > LA36 > > LA180 > > DELNI > > DECSA > > Rainbow > > Anything else with a DEC label I can lift and and will fit into the > car. > > Objectives > > Working Examples of PDP8 , PDP11, and VAX systems. > > DECNet Network to connect the above. > > Working Examples of VT100, VT200, VT300, VT400, and VT500 series > terminals > > Decserver 200 connecting the above to the network > > Working Examples of LA series terminals/printers > > > > > > Rod Smallwood > > > >

18 years, 1 month

DEC parts code reference?

by RodSmallwood＠mail.ediconsulting.co.uk

Hi Guys The most useful internal document we had when I was at DEC was the Price Book. It consisted of a 250 page line printer document reduced from 15" to A3 and bound into Book format. Every saleable item was in there. There must have been a database somewhere with every item DEC sold and its part number. Im unsure but there may well have been a corporate DEC 10 in the Mill. Somebody, somewhere must have a tape backup of the price list. (Now that would be a real find!!) We never knew how the part numbers got allocated either. However the product numbers like DLV11-J tended to be generated by the Product Line And the module numbers like M7786 were of engineering origin. It makes a little more sense if you know the internal structure of DEC (yes it did have one!) Rod Smallwood -----Original Message----- From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Antonio Carlini Sent: 06 June 2007 22:28 To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Subject: RE: DEC parts code reference? Jules Richardson wrote: > That's precisely my problem - I was spotting vague patterns earlier, > but then something would come along that just didn't fit in, and > having a few exceptions makes the whole idea of sifting things based > on part code alone rather redundant :-) DEC produced "stuff" for (just) over 40 years; naming consistency over that period is a tad tough :-) Someone sent me a copy of an Options and Modules CD set from the mid 1990s ... I think I sent it to Manx but I'm not sure how easy it would be to make available over the net. (It's not the amount of data, it's more how to present it). Antonio

18 years, 1 month

PDP-11/34 front panel, for cost of postage

by pete＠dunnington.plus.com

Still clearing things out... I found a spare PDP-11/34 front panel -- the "Programmer's" type, with the octal display and octal keypad. Complete with all the cables but does not include the KY11-L SPC card that would control it. Free for cost of postage from York, UK. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

18 years, 1 month

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test-drb June 2007