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Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 19:49:57 +0000
From: Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com>
On 22 January 2012 18:55, MikeS <dm561 at torfree.net> wrote:
> ----- Original Message:
> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:59:25 +0000
> From: Pete Turnbull <pete at dunnington.plus.com>
>
>>> I dislike hyperterminal fairly intensely...
>
>
>> Just curious: what is it specifically about HyperTerminal that you not
>> only dislike, but dislike "fairly intensely" (other than that it used to
>> be supplied by Microsoft and runs in Windows)?
> As for me: I really dislike the business of selecting a session, attaching
> it to a specified modem device and so on. I want a comms program to just
> open up and point me at the serial port; I'll do the dialling, thanks.
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Different strokes for different folks, I guess; for 'real work', i.e.
connecting to an external system/device, I actually like being able to
simply click on an appropriate icon and being transparently connected to
that system without selecting com ports, dialing numbers, etc.
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> I do feel that the basic function of a comms program is to be a terminal
> emulator, though. HyperTerm compelled you to create a session, install a
> modem driver, choose a modem and so on, even if you just wanted to type
> ATI1
> ATI2
> ATI3
> ...etc.
> If you wanted a dumb terminal session, IIRC, you had to configure a null
> modem or a direct cable connection and point it at that. It was just
> obstructive.
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Umm, no, not really; if all you wanted was to talk to a comm port then like
any terminal program you selected the comm port, baud rate and handshaking
and away you went, optionally saving the configuration to a session in case
you wanted to use it again. Of course most of the time you wanted to connect
to a _system_ or a _device_ and not a comm port, which would require some
additional setup like entering phone numbers, modem configuration
parameters, etc.
But yes, if what you wanted was to tinker with different baud rates,
handshaking, emulations etc. instead of just connecting to whatever, then
other terminal programs like Bray's Term, RealTerm, PuTTY etc. or even DOS's
ProcommPlus or Telix were indeed more flexible, and I use them all as well
>from time to time.
----- Original Message:
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:59:25 +0000
From: Pete Turnbull <pete at dunnington.plus.com>
> I dislike hyperterminal fairly intensely...
Just curious: what is it specifically about HyperTerminal that you not only
dislike, but dislike "fairly intensely" (other than that it used to be
supplied by Microsoft and runs in Windows)?
ADM-3A was for a long time the lowest common denominator in the terminal world. The VT-100 came later but became the next lowest common denominator. (Ignoring the VT52 in between.)
VT640 is a VT100 with a third-party (Retrographics) graphics board fitted into it. They were the cat's meow for plotting and graphics if you didn't have a real Tek 4010 on your desk. I am guessing that there are additional graphics features the Synclavier could use on a VT640 but that's just a guess.
ADM3A and/or VT100 emulation are pretty much expected on any terminal you would've bought in the late 70's onwards. And most all terminal emulation software for PC's claims to do them too (with different degrees of fidelity; MS-DOS Kermit really remains one of the best, with most windows terminal emulation packages choosing to emulate other terminal emulation packages rather than the real terminal!)
----- Original Message:
Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:53:19 -0500
From: "Bill Sudbrink" <wh.sudbrink at verizon.net>
Subject: RE: Cromemco FDC
...
> I run SA-851's on my 16FDC with a simply modified ribbon cable.
care to share the details?
m
Hopefully this won;t develop into a flamewar....
I am looking for a terminal emoulator program that runs on the Epson HX20.
The copy of SIDHA-Dialog that was on a website is corrupt. I contacted the
website owner, he agrees, in fact it's not a tar fiel atall, but an html
error page!. Does anyone know of a terminal emulator for the HX20?
I also read a rumour that there was a FORTH ROM for the HX20 that plugged
into the empty ROM socket in the machine. Does anyone have an image of
that or, inded, images of any other option ROMs for it?
Thanks in advnce for any help
-tony
hi got couple thing
i'm in need of some paper tapes for my 8a that i appear to be missing so i
am unable to do much with my Manichean atm
anyone up for making copies i don't have a way of hooking my asr33 into my
laptop or my h10 high speed punch reader
DEC-08-AJAE-PB
DEC-08-ESAC-PB
DEC-08-CDDB-PB
DEC-08-LBAA-PM
DEC-08-LPALA-A-PB
these were also suggested to me by CMGauger on irc
DEC-08-LRAA-D
DEC-08-LBAA-D
DEC-08-LHAA-D
DEC-08-ESAB-D
DEC-08-ASAB-D
DEC-08-CMAA-D
DEC-08-ARXA-D
DEC-08-CDDB-D
DEC-08-COCO-D
DEC-08-AJAD-D
DEC-08-AFCO-D
DEC-08-KFXB-D
os8? or am i nuts?
but yea for sure i need a bin loader
i got several rolls of asr33 tape and paper... also got one roll of the
black tape for the h10 i could trade and bunch of h11 software on tape if
anyone wants to trade?? i don't have the abillity to hook my modern
computer up to my asr witch is a laptop a
i have the fallowing tapes already
MAINDEC-08-DJKMA-B-PM2 4/7/76 KM8-A OPTION TEST #2
MAINDEC-08-DJKMA-B-PM1 4/7/76 KM8-A OPTION TEST #2
MAINDEC-08-DJDKA-C-PS1 6/24/77 DKC8-AA OPTION TEST #1
MAINDEC-08-DJEXS-A-PB 6/24/77 2K TO 32K PDP-8A PROCESSOR EXERCISER
MAINDEC-08-DJKMA-B-PM4 4/7/76 KM8-A OPTION TEST #2
MAINDEC-08-DJKKA-C-PB1 6/24/77 PDP-8/A CPU TEST
MAINDEC-08-DJMSA-A-PB 6/24/77 1-4K MSA-A MOS MEMORY TEST
and these fisher scientific tapes >>
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6067/6089172843_c1d5cb15c5_b.jpg
i have a sr33 for communicating atm with the 8a
i've got a dataram dr-118a 16kx12 16k stack ready to go in dunno w its
jumpers need to be at on it to work with my 8k
also
would a serial cable from a pdp 11 (currently attached to a m8028) work
with my 8a if i was to use it with my m8316 rev D connecting to a usb to
serial if that would work any suggestions?
note if your going to freak on me for spelling and or grammar i tried my
best i suffer from dyslexia and its frustrating to be me so plzz bare with
me :'(
adrian stoness
> From:?Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org>
> Date:?Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:45:10 -0800
> Subject:?Re: CHM's PDP-1 (was Re: PDP-8/I at the RICM)
>
> We had around 65,000 visitors last year. With that many members of the general public
> in an exhibit, theft and vandalism becomes a real concern. Along with that, many people
> feeling the need to touch artifacts, climb on platforms, and try to do things like open
> equipment drawers.
I volunteer for a Steam Engine and Wireless Radio Museum. http://www.newsm.org.
We usually get about 1,000 visitors in 6 hours during our annual Steam-Up.
Keeping a close watch on everyone is very difficult.
A visitor actually brought tools so they could steal parts from an
engine governor.
--
Michael Thompson
>> > Just looked around at the Oracle Site but found nothing for VAX. Does
>> > anyone have an idea how to get RDB for VAX?
> I have it. Contact me off-list.
A couple of years ago you could download it from Oracle's site. You
will probably have to register first (free) but as a developer or
consultant or whatever you can usually download their products for free.
It is not easy to find, there is no obvious link to it from anywhere you
usually find when poking around. You will probably need to search for it.
I think I have a reasonably recent (~2-3 years old?) version of it too
on a CD image somewhere. I know it is running on my SIMH. I could look
for it if you need it.
/Jonas
I'm looking for a couple of boards to get my 2109E configured for
running RTE-IVB or RTE-6VM:
12747A 128KB Memory Module (1 or 2)
12731A Memory Expansion Module
12791A Firmware Expansion Module
If anyone has any spares, please respond privately with your asking
price. If you know of any sources BESIDES Crisis Computer, Monterey Bay
Communications or Alant??, I'd also be interested. Thanks.
Mike Loewen mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us
Old Technology http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/
I'm in the process of moving a bunch of my computer collection into
storage as part of an effort to de-clutter my far-too-cluttered house.
In so doing I've decided to thin the collection a bit.
This stuff is in the Seattle area, and I really really really prefer
local pickup, especially for the heavy items. Items are free unless
otherwise noted. More details available upon request.
Thanks!
Josh
Computers:
SGI Indy R5000 - $20 - No hard drive or RAM, but was working the last
time I powered it up (which was several years ago.) I can probably
scrounge up some 72-pin SIMMs for it if needed.
SGI Indigo2 - $100 - R10K, Max Impact with 4MB TRAMs, 4gb drive and
(iirc) 768MB RAM. Very nice system but I don't use it much anymore (and
I have a better equipped Octane for those days I do want to play with a
nice SGI :)).
Sun Ultra 10 - $20 - 512MB RAM, 60GB drive, "Penguin" PC coprocessor.
Acorn A5000 - Complete, but faceplate got damaged in shipping so it's
kind of ugly. Has 240V power supply, I had tested this at one point
with a 120V supply and it seemed to be working. NVRAM battery has been
removed (after causing mild corrosion on the PCB, but nothing
irreversable). No keyboard/mouse.
2x IBM PC Convertibles - Complete, working. Printer & RS232 expansion
modules, and a pair of carrying cases. Now you can outclass those
Macbook-using snobs at Starbucks. (Or perhaps not.)
3x Macintosh Portables. $30 for the lot. None in working condition,
none with hard drives. Other than that, they're complete. Impress your
friends with a laptop that weighs more than a small car.
IBM RS/6000 (Type 7043-140) - 233Mhz 604e, unknown amount of RAM (I can
power it up and find out if you're interested.) Includes gigantic POWER
GXT800P video card. Was working last time I powered it up.
2x "ePod" tablet computers (w/box) - (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPod) Windows CE 3.0-based tablet device,
color 640x480 screen, PCMCIA. A tablet years ahead of its time, or a
useless doorstop? You be the judge.
Non-Computers:
Shibaden FP-107-1B TV Camera - The Seattle Science Center was tossing
this out a few years back, and I couldn't let it get scrapped. It's a
heavy old video camera from the late 60s. Complete with lenses but I've
nothing to hook it up to so who knows if it works. Has some nifty tubes
in it, though!
