Hello everyone!
I have a question which to some might seem rather obvious to some, but
I cannot find the answer. And guessing by my recent streak of luck
I'll probably find the answer to this question after posting the
question to the list... Nevermind, back on topic.
The question at hand: Can a PMI processor -- in this case a KDJ11-BF
-- be put into a non-PMI serpentine QBUS backplane? Or will the magic
smoke be released.
If the answer is a resounding "no". Any one here have a KDJ11-AC
(M8192-YC) they'd be willing to trade for a KDJ11-BF (M8190-AE)?
I'm also interested in some other QBUS '11 boards, a -- short -- list
follows, in order of precedence:
> DLV11-J/DLVJ1-M (M8043) -- or compatible
> QBUS (non-PMI) memory -- I'd *LOVE* to get an MSV11-QC (M7551-CA, 4MB), -QB (-BA, 2MB) or -QA (-AA, 1MB) memory board; I'd also be fine with a 256KB MSV11-LK (M8059-K*) board
> 22-bit compatible boot ROM board -- e.g. The BDV11 (M8012) revision E.
> QBUS SCSI controller -- I'm really gunning for the CMD CQD-220A/TM, though I'm for any form of QBUS SCSI controller that can be both TMSCP tape and MSCP disk controller at the same time
> DRV11-J (M8049) -- or compatible
> DHV11 (M3104) -- or compatible
> LPV11 (M8027
> DELQA (M7516) -- or compatible
I would love to get all DEC original boards -- save the SCSI
controller, as I would the system to have mostly DEC innards.
If any one can tell from that list, I'm setting up a complete PDP-11
system. In this case replacing one. Don't ask what happened to the
machine that is being replaced be cause I will go on a twenty minute
long rant consisting of nothing but swearing.
Many thanks for any help offered!
Cheers,
Christian G.
I wonder what the state of the art in Atari emulation is?
I'm an old Amiga person rather than Atari one so every so often I get
an urge to go buy an Amiga 4000. Instead I fire up my copy of E-UAE
running AmigaDOS 3.9 and the urge goes away. It runs some old games
better than my A500 ever did and I can run the AGA stuff my older
machines never could without massive modifications.
My eventual goal is to get an old netbook and dedicate it to just
running WinUAE.
Perhaps the OP might find an Atari emulator the same way?
> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:09:30 +0100
> From: Jonas Otter <jonas at otter.se>
> On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 20:33:36 -0800, "Zane H. Healy"
> <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
>> At 7:54 PM -0800 12/25/12, Tom Sparks wrote:
>>> >I am looking at buying an Atari ST, witch model should I look into buying?
>> The TT030 is nice very nice and takes a VGA monitor, but I rather
>> wish I'd gone for a Falcon. Of course I got my TT030 nearly 15 years
>> ago, it was hard to get then, I hate to think how hard it might be to
>> get any Atari ST now, or what any Atari computer might cost.
>>
>> Zane
> They are fairly common on auction sites here in Sweden, I got my
> 1040STFM a couple of years ago for about 50 Euro, with 2 joysticks, a
> custom-built flight case and about 200 floppies with pirated games on.
>
> If you are prepared to pay for shipping from Europe, you could have a
> look on ebay.de (Germany) for example, or one of the other European
> national ebay sites. I got mine from Tradera which is owned by ebay
> (www.tradera.com), they turn up there every now and then, mostly 520s
> and 1040s. Shipping would probably be quite expensive though.
>
> Jonas
William
--
Live like you will never die, love like you've never been hurt, dance
like no-one is watching.
Alex White
I have a functioning PDP-11/23+ system (4 Mb RAM, 16-line serial card,
two RL02's; RT-11XM, TSX-Plus) in the half-height "corporate cabinet".
Since I got it running and played ADVENT a few times, I find I never
use it... would anyone be interested in buying it? If so I'd much
prefer you came and picked it up; located in West Plains MO. Email me
for pictures.
thanks
Charles
Mike,
Thanks. If that's the case, let me try making a couple more disks using
different disk images that I can find online and see if I have any better
luck. If not, I'll try the drive speed adjustment. If you don't mind
sending me a pointer for that, it sounds like it would be a good thing to
have regardless of whether I need to use it this time or not
Thanks,
Win
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Hi Win,
It sound like the floppy you created from the image is good -- usually
you get the immediate "Retry" message if the III can't recognize the
disk at all. As long as you used the CFFA to create the disk from the
image, just as you would an Apple II disk, it should work.
>From what I've experienced, what you're seeing is usually (but not
always) one of two things:
1) The disk image you used to create the image has a driver installed
for a piece of hardware that isn't present in your system (i.e, a
ProFile drive) and SOS has loaded the driver and is waiting for the
peripheral to respond. SOS is supposed to be smart enough to realize
that hardware isn't there and move on with the loading process, but it
doesn't always work that way.
or 2) your drive needs to be adjusted. I have about two dozen Disk
III drives and every single one of them required a speed adjustment
before they would work when I acquired them. LMK if you need the
procedures for that.
- Mike
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On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 2:45 PM PST Chuck Guzis wrote:
>On 12/30/2012 01:37 PM, Chris Tofu wrote:
>>
>>
>> C: Where are you getting this from? I don't see it googling. Does it contain artwork for the DEB board?
>>
>> NM NM NM. Does anyone have one though? Does it simply add memory to the display board?
>
>I've concluded that I must have a differnt Google (my own "Cole Porter",
>if you will permit a Python allusion) than everyone else:
>
>http://m24.museodelcomputer.org/site/doc.html
>
>Enjoy,
>Chuck
>
>
did you stop to think what "NM" meant? IOW I found it.
--- On Monday, December 31, 2012 1:04 AM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
>> >> NM NM NM. Does anyone
> have one though? Does it simply
> add memory to the display board?
> > >I've concluded that I must have a differnt Google (my own "Cole Porter",
> > >if you will permit a Python allusion) than everyone else:
> > >http://m24.museodelcomputer.org/site/doc.html
> On Sun, 30 Dec 2012, Chris Tofu wrote:
> > did you stop to think what "NM" meant? IOW I found it.
>
> Non-Maskable. [interrupts]
>
> New Mexico??!?
.
.
.
NM = nevermind (chatrooms and txt speak)
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 20:27:48 -0500, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
<captainkirk359 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, I'm never again letting the machine out of my sight or leaving
> the house without Crazy Psycho Bitch Lady With No Respect For Personal
> Property in tow, and/or the machine and rack bolted to the floor,
> wall, and any available fixed surface. Because*I* didn't do anything
> to lose my entire PDP-11 system beyond living at my university dorm.
> CPBLWNRFPP did something to my system and it is out of my possession
> without any way for me to get it back -- and she can't give me a
> straight story as to whether she threw the machine out, or sold it.
> Personally since she has no idea what the machine was other then an --
> in her words -- "old, dirty, fucking computer" I think she carted it
> to the dump and tossed it. Oh and it was*FAR* from dirty as I made
> sure to keep it spotless (the all white bevel/faceplate drove me nuts
> as it seemed to attract dust from everywhere in a three light year
> radius... just like my piano).
Get Rid Of Her. Now.
Mike,
I read the relevant chapters and have a bit better understanding of the
Apple III...I think. I tried making an SOS disk today using my Apple IIe
and the CFFA3000 with some Apple III dsk images i found online. I used
ProDOS and was able to format the floppy and it appeared to copy the image
onto the floppy. At least it said it was successful, but when I tried
booting the III with it, the drive spun for about 3 seconds and then
stopped and nothing else happened...nothing on the display. Should it work
to copy a floppy like this using ProDOS on a IIe for use on a III? Is
there another utility that would be better suited to copy the disk?
Thanks,
Win
Unlike the II, which is relatively easy to configure to boot to any
(bootable) storage device in nearly any slot, the Apple III tries to
boot only from the internal floppy drive, and as Eric pointed out,
you'd have to roll your own ROM to change that behavior. The CFFA3000
works nicely in the III, but you lose the Drive ][ emulation
capability and you can't boot directly to it.
In the Apple III, everything is seen as a device and requires a driver
that SOS loads as it boots in order to be accessible to the system
during operation. You can't (easily) boot directly to the CFFA because
SOS requires a driver to be able to recognize it. Fortunately, SOS is
close enough to ProDOS that you can use the CFFA in an Apple II to
create floppies from the images you downloaded.
I'd suggest reading this PDF for more on how the III works:
http;//apple2scans.net/scans/manuals/3rd.party/OMHGYA3.pdf
It's the Osborne McGraw Hill Guide To Your Apply III. Pay special
attention to Chapters 3 and 4.
LMK if you have any questions about all this.
- Mike
Hi,
I have managed to get around to having a look at this machine. It is a
model 231.
I am getting nothing on the screen and no beeps when in diagnostic mode.
The PSU is on and the fans are running. I have checked the schematics and
the voltage is correct on all pins coming out of the supply and there is
voltage going into the screen.
The screen is not 'firing' up as I would expect. I am not an expert on CRT's
Anyone know anything about these machines or how to proceed. I have found
online service manuals for the screen and machine as well as full
schematics for both.
Thanks
Dan
