> From: Al Kossow
> It's pretty much just the odd manual from here and there that I'm
> adding now.
Speaking of which, is there by any chance a master list somewhere of stuff
you're looking for? Or if Manx says 'not available online', can I take that to
the bank? (Although identifying missing things that way's kind of tedious -
one has to type each document's ID into Google to see if it's available.)
Because I just bought a big stack of stuff, and perhaps some of it is stuff
that's not available online - if so, I'd be happy to scan any such.
Noel
> From: Johnny Billquist
>> (.. the page in the 11/94 User Guide .. pg. 1-4 - is missing from
>> all the online copies of that manual which I checked.)
>> ...
>> the pinout on the board is given in the KDJ11-E User's Guide
>> (EK-KDJ1E-UG-001, available online)
> PDP-11/9x manuals are not scarce at all. Where do you people search???
> 11/93:
> http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/dec/pdp11/1193/EK-KDJ1E-UG-001_KDJ11…
> 11/94:
> http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/dec/pdp11/1194/EK-PDP94-MG-001_Sep90…
If you actually read my message (the one you included in your reply), you
will see that I referenced _both_ of those (the 94 'MG' document is fully
titled the 'System User and Maintainence Guide' - I shorted that mouthful to
make it less work to type), and indicated they were available online.
And the '93' manual you list is not for the 93, but rather is for the KDJ11-E
CPU card, which is used in _both_ the 93 and 94. (That document is also
mostly duplicative of the 94-MG.) Needless to say, there's a lot more to
those systems than the CPU card, although some of it (e.g. the power
supplies) _may_ be documented separately; I haven't checked.
Typical DEC systems have a lot of other documents, none of which seem to be
available online for the 93/94, including (typically):
User Manual
Technical Manual
Maintainence Manual
Field Maintainence Print Set
Illustrated Parts Breakdown
For the KDJ11-E there does seem to be the "KDJ11-E CPU System Maintenance
Manual" (EK-403AA-MM-001), but that doesn't seem to be available online.
The one 11/94 document I know of (the System User and Maintainence Guide)
does reference the Field Maintainence Print Set for the 11/94 (MP-02637-01 -
but according to Manx, that's not available online), and the IPB. So probably
the other ones don't exist for the /94.
I don't know which of these documents even exist for the /93, since I can't
find a single 93-specific document - which might list what other /93
documents exist.
Noel
> From: Roe Peterson
> Can anyone point me at the pinouts for the KDJ11-E pdp11/93 DB9 rs232
> connectors for the extra 7 (simulated) DL11s?
Alas, documentation on the 11/93-94 seems to be very scarce on the ground.
(And, just for grins, the page in the 11/94 User Guide which has the section -
1.2.6 - which talks, however briefly, about that panel - pg. 1-4 - is missing
>from all the online copies of that manual which I checked.)
The only thing I can suggest is that if you actually have the cable, the
pinout on the board is given in the KDJ11-E User's Guide (EK-KDJ1E-UG-001,
available online), on pg. 88-91 (aka 2-13 to 2-16), and an ohm-meter and some
time will give you the pinout of one of the DB9's - presumably they are all
the same, from there.
Noel
Hi all,
I've got a 5160 here with the XT keyboard - however it's got the 64/256K
motherboard fitted (with the "early" Jan '86 EPROMs), and Wikipedia seems
to claim that by the time the 64/256K boards came out the machines were
shipped with 102-key keyboards (the XT flavor of the Model M, I assume).
Anyone know if that's true, and so my system should technically have a
"full size" keyboard, or was there a crossover period where systems with
the newer boards shipped with the 83-key XT keyboards?
Everything else about the machine suggests it was built sometime '86 (dates
on the PSU, IC date codes on the expansion boards etc.), although it has a
20MB F/H IBM hard drive (rather than the H/H Seagates that I think the
newer systems got). There's no ID info on the underside of the keyboard
like there is on my Model M; I'm not sure if there should be.
Also, I'm missing the silver keyboard decal - I believe these just said
"IBM personal computer" like they did for the 5150, even though the 5160
case decal mentions XT. Does anyone have one they could pull from an
otherwise-junk keyboard that they might be willing to part with?
cheers
Jules
I can't tell for sure, but this auction may be for PDP8 core board.
KT-KEARNEY-TRECKER-ASSY-KT83-0933-KT84-020-SYSTEM-BOARD
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181565552717
board is 6 across in size.
From what I could find out K&T used PDP8 for NC controlled machines at
some time.
There is also this sort of board. The silkscreen shows a Microprocessor
section outlined with a 40 pin ceramic gold chip.
I am going to query the vendor to get a picture where you can read what
is on the can, or get the text on the can. Maybe the thing is a Harris
part, don't know.
Since the listing is for Giddings and Lewis, which is either a
subsidiary or competitor of K&T it may be another completely different
system. It looks like K&T, G&L and Cincinnati Millacron had a number of
legal runnins as there were several lawsuits in the google hits when
looking these boards up.
CM used an OEM Microdata 1600, and later 3 generations of their own 1600
derived designs before moving on to other newer microprocessor scale
parts. The CM 800, and 900 and one later are all 1600s, or near
relatives os such. The 900 uses 8K, 16K microdata manufactured core
boards, and also the Ampex / CDC 32k core board. I buy all those that
show up cheap on the usual auction site.
Here is the processor board:
GIDDINGS-LEWIS-KT-KEARNEY-TRECKER-871-20410-05-SYSTEM-BOARD
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181564464339
Jim
> From: Henk Gooijen
> I wanted to connect a VT510 to the console port. All connectors are
> DE-9
Really? The PDP-11/94-E User Guide (EK-PDP94-MG-001), available online in a
number of places, shows (pg 46, aka 2-18) the Console/SLU panel, and the
Console connector is much larger than the SLU connectors. (The illustration
shows a 23-pin D-type connector - presumably an error, it should have been
25.) And here:
http://www.pdp-11.nl/pdp11-93/rear-panel-small.jpg
is a picture of one, and it indeed has the 25-pin console connector.
Although I suppose it's possible they changed the actual hardware at some
point, and some real machines have a 9-pin D-type? Or maybe a VAX of some
sort uses a similar panel, but with all 9-pin D-types, and someone had
stuck on of those on that machine?
> What worked for me is the "VAX console cable", in other words: that
> DE-9 connectors is NOT "PC alike"! You can find the VAX console cable
> pinout on the web.
Good catch! It makes sense that the VAX and 11/93-94 use the same 9-pin
D-type pinout; that way they'd only have to have one kind of cable.
Noel
I have a pdp-11/70 front panel, but no bezel. Does anyone here have one?
I understand that the 11/40, 11/45, 11/50, 11/55, and 11/70 had identical
bezels.
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
Folks,
I have just bought one of these and it is behaving oddly. I think the PSU
regulation is faulty. Does any one have a schematic of the PSU, or even just
the regulator board. I think the US and UK actually have the same PSU as my
UK version has 2 x 110 Volt primaries strapped in series. .
Dave Wade
G4UGM
