Hello Fellow Vintage Computing Aficionados.
I have a large batch of RAM specific to the Macintosh (from Mac II/SE
series up through iMac). Please inquire about any of the listings below.
I apologize if I did not provide enough information, please contact me for
additional specifications.
These modules have been carefully stored away in anti-static bags, and some
are still sealed/old-new stock.
Pricing is for single (1), double (2), or quadruple (2) sets of modules,
plus shipping. Shipping can be included with orders of multiple sets.
Added up the asking price for everything in this listing is $400. I'll
take $300 for the entire batch and will give such a sale priority over
individual sales.
A more readable listing (in spreadsheet format) can be found here ==>
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I53wxarLHlNmlPVf_HJ5oMKuab4zrApI_hi…
Cubig 16MB 72-pin SIMM Sealed in anti-static bag. $6.00
Cubig 16MB 72-pin SIMM (2) 4X362S $12.00
Cubig 16MB 72-pin SIMM 4Mx36 $6.00
Fairchild 1MB 30-pin SIMM (2) 1Mx8 70ns $15.00
Hyundai 16MB 168-pin DIMM (2) HYM564224 AXG-60 $14.00
Hyundai 128MB PC-66 SDRAM HYM7V641601 TFG-10 $5.00
Kingston 128MB PC-100 SDRAM (2) KTA-G3100/128-CE $10.00
LG Semicon 4MB 72-pin SIMM (2) E71042 LG1; GMM7322000BN $10.00
Lifetime Memory 8MB 72-pin SIMM 10155A $5.00
Micron 128MB PC-100 SDRAM IH61959; PC100-222-620 $5.00
Mitsubishi 256K 72-pin SIMM (VRAM) 256Kx8; VRAM for Quadra 840av $12.00
Mitsubishi 4MB 30-pin SIMM (2) 4Mx8 $20.00
Mitsubishi 8MB 72-pin SIMM (2) 2MX32; MH12816AJ-8 $12.00
Mitsubishi 16MB 168-pin DIMM (2) 2Mx64 MH2M64CZPJ-6; MSAI AP168N9B-C $14.00
Motorola 1MB 72-pin SIMM MCM32256AS70, 256Kx32; for Macintosh LC 575 $6.00
Motorola 8MB 72-pin SIMM MCM32230SH60; 2MBx32 $6.00
NEC 8MB 168-pin DIMM (2) MC-421000AA64FB-70; 604 class $12.00
Panasonic 16MB 30-pin SIMM KJY-0364; 16X8-60; new in sealed anti-static
pouch $10.00
RMR 16MB 72-pin SIMM (2) 4X32-60; sealed in anti-static bag $18.00
RMR 16MB 72-pin DIMM (2) HY5117400B 4Mx4 $15.00
RMR 32MB 168-pin DIMM 105174B; 604 class $7.00
SEC 32MB 168-pin DIMM KMM364E410BK-6; 604 class $5.00
Samsung 4MB 72-pin SIMM KMM5322000BV-6; for Quadra 840AV $6.00
Southland 32MB 72-pin SIMM (2) SGE 8X32T6 non-parity 60ns; in sealed
anti-static bags in Southland container $20.00
Spectrum Engineering DT77 16MB 30-pin SIMM (4) 16MB modules for Macintosh
II series $30.00
Spectrum Engineering DT77 16MB 30-pin SIMM (2) 16MB modules for Macintosh
II series $18.00
Spectrum Engineering DT77 16MB 30-pin SIMM (1) 16MB modules for Macintosh
II series $10.00
Spectrum DT220 4MB 30-pin SIMM (4) 4MB SIMM modules for Macintosh IIsi or
IIc $30.00
Spectrum DT220 4MB 30-pin SIMM (2) 4MB SIMM modules for Macintosh IIsi or
IIc $17.00
Spectrum DT220 4MB 30-pin SIMM (1) 4MB SIMM modules for Macintosh IIsi or
IIc $9.00
TechWorks 4MB 30-pin SIMM (2) 4Mx8, 70ns; sealed in anti-static bags $15.00
TechWorks 16MB 72-pin SIMM 4x32-60 $6.00
Texas Instruments 4MB 72-pin SIMM (2) 1MX32 TM124BBK32U-70 $10.00
ZTECH 128MB PC-100 SDRAM KO-9013 KM44S16030CT-GL $5.00
Please contact me by e-mail to inquire.
Thanks!
Sellam
Anyone on here remember NetWare? :P
There used to (fairly recently) be a company called Portlock that made a utility called Portlock Storage manager, which was really excellent, for dealing with storage volumes. Their website was portlock.com. But they seem to be gone now. Does anyone know what happened to them?
They used to publish license keys that would expire after about 6 months on their page, but I really hope they didn't go out of business.
Thanks!
>>> I ordered two from Mouser this week.
>>
>> And paid in much in S&H (if not more) to buy the two from Mouser then it
>> would have cost to get 50 from China... ;)
>
> And what would I do with 50 when I need 2?
I often order from DigiKey or Mouser, but I build ("manufacture") some
electronic products in small batches, and I can often piggy-back some
personal items onto one of those orders to save shipping.
I also frequently order items will-call from Jameco, which is located about
two miles from my house. They certainly don't have the huge stock or
up-to-date parts that DigiKey and Mouser do, and their web site is
atrocious, but I certainly can't beat the convenience. They have a far
larger variety of stock than Fry's or Radio Shack ever did, and they're
generally a lot cheaper than a retail store, or even DK or M.
Surprisingly, there's still an old-school electronics store in the area,
too: Sam Mateo Electronics. They even have an old-style drug store tube
tester, although they don't stock tubes any more (I think).
When I'm buying parts, or almost anything except for tools, I usually order
more than I need. Over the (many, many) years, this has resulted in me
having a range of parts and other material "in stock" that I would have
totally envied in my younger years. I've now reached the point where I'm
trying to adapt my designs to make do with the parts I have in stock, rather
than having to order new ones. Unlike in earlier years, this isn't due to
cost, but rather to try to use up all of the *stuff* I've accumulated over
the years...
~~
Mark Moulding
I have my VAXmate in pieces at the moment because the PSU has failed. I am
still working on finding the fault there, although it seems to be the
crowbar circuit that is shutting it down. To work out the problem I am going
to buy a DSO (Rigol DS1054Z) as my regular scope is analog and not much use
in detecting one-off events. It is an odd fault because there was a definite
bad smell after the failure, but I can't find any blown components. Whatever
blew up has presumably taken something on the PSU board with it, but I don't
know what yet. The PSU shuts down even with none of the other VAXmate boards
attached (and using a scratch HDD as a load).
Anyway, while I have the machine open, I thought I would look at the video
board capacitors too. Before the PSU failed, I noticed a bit of an
occasional wobble in the screen image and a narrowing of the image at the
top of the screen. I have measured ESR on all the electrolytics. All the
larger capacitors seem to have a low ESR compared to the table printed on my
ESR meter, some of the small ones (15uF/16V sort of size) have an ESR closer
to the values printed on my ESR meter. I don't really want to replace
everything if I don't have to, but equally I don't want any kind of failure
to ruin an irreplaceable component like the transformer. Should I just
re-cap the lot, or just the physically smaller capacitors?
Thanks
Rob
I remember chatting a bit with John Fry who saw the sales margins in
electronics and compared them to food sales his family's supermarket
chain. He figured that the marketing that worked so well in the grocery
business would be a winner in electronics sales. Because of his
family's connections, he could also offer popular food items. High
volume and low margins.
That answers my question about why Fry's the supermarket chain (acquired by
Kroger's a few years ago) has a logo like the electronics store.
The Fry's down near NASA in Houston was also a creepy ghost town a month or
so ago. Micro Center in Houston seemed to be doing fine.
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> 3. Re: One of Bay Area's last Fry's Electronics stores closes
> (Fred Cisin)
> 4. Re: One of Bay Area's last Fry's Electronics stores closes (Ali)
> 5. RE: One of Bay Area's last Fry's Electronics stores closes (Ali)
> 6. Re: One of Bay Area's last Fry's Electronics stores closes
> (jim stephens)
> 7. Re: One of Bay Area's last Fry's Electronics stores closes
> (Fred Cisin)
> 8. Re: One of Bay Area's last Fry's Electronics stores closes
> (John Herron)
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> 10. RE: One of Bay Area's last Fry's Electronics stores closes
> (Mike Begley)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 10:34:27 -0800
> From: "Tom Gardner" <t.gardner at computer.org>
> To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: One of Bay Area's last Fry's Electronics stores closes
> Message-ID: <002301d5c008$ef5ba650$ce12f2f0$(a)computer.org>
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> Palo Alto Fry?s closing <
> https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Bay-Area-locations-Frys-Electronics-…>
> . Sad, but not the end of an era ? apparently the loss of lease
>
>
>
> I remember visiting an early Fry?s (first?) in Sunnyvale (541 Lakeside
> Dr?, near Oakmead and around the corner from Shugart Associates where I
> then worked). I marveled at the selection of steaks, diet cokes,
> resistors, capacitors, ICs, etc. They had partially converted a
> supermarket into an electronics store but I heard they at first kept the
> food to keep some cash flow. I think I bought steaks J The engineers and
> technicians at Shugart more than once ran over there to get breadboard
> parts.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 11:24:27 -0800
> From: Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com>
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: One of Bay Area's last Fry's Electronics stores closes
> Message-ID: <fa07b790-23ac-5492-48f6-631358c69d0a at sydex.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> On 12/31/19 10:34 AM, Tom Gardner via cctalk wrote:
> > Palo Alto Fry?s closing
> > <
> https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Bay-Area-locations-Frys-Electronics-…
> >
> > . Sad, but not the end of an era ? apparently the loss of lease
> >
> >
> > I remember visiting an early Fry?s (first?) in Sunnyvale (541
> > Lakeside Dr?, near Oakmead and around the corner from Shugart
> > Associates where I then worked). I marveled at the selection of
> > steaks, diet cokes, resistors, capacitors, ICs, etc. They had
> > partially converted a supermarket into an electronics store but I
> > heard they at first kept the food to keep some cash flow. I think I
> > bought steaks J The engineers and technicians at Shugart more than
> > once ran over there to get breadboard parts.
>
> I was at the grand opening of the Sunnyvale Fry's. A great place to
> purchase Canfield's Diet Chocolate Fudge soda, which was all the rage
> back then. A friend purchased it by the caselot.
>
> I remember chatting a bit with John Fry who saw the sales margins in
> electronics and compared them to food sales his family's supermarket
> chain. He figured that the marketing that worked so well in the grocery
> business would be a winner in electronics sales. Because of his
> family's connections, he could also offer popular food items. High
> volume and low margins.
>
> Sigh. It was a time when factory reps would come and give live
> presentations of their good stuff. And rows and rows of pegboard with
> plastic bags of components with red-and-white labels. At some point
> they got some sort of deal with Everex (which was in Fremont) and they
> had piles of that stuff cheap for sale. In that department, however,
> their tech support was close to non-existent. ("Doesn't work? Here's
> another one to try" approach).
>
> But then, the area had lots of surplus electronics places back then,
> probably because things were actually manufactured in the Santa Clara
> valley.
>
> The Palo Alto store was after my time.
>
> --Chuck
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 13:08:54 -0800 (PST)
> From: Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: One of Bay Area's last Fry's Electronics stores closes
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1912311301460.24943 at shell.lmi.net>
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>
> Fry's says that they are doing fine.
> BUT, that they are moving to a "consignment" model - they now plan to pay
> their suppliers only AFTER the merchandise sells.
>
> Or at least that is what they are telling their creditors.
>
> They could revitalize the stores, if they would add Jolt Cola, Canfield's
> Diet Chocolate Fudge soda, potato chips, cookies, toothpaste, rosin-core
> lead solder, and electronic components. Maybe even collaborate with
> Fat-Brain to open a computer literacy bookstore.
>
> --
> Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
>
> >> Palo Alto Fry???s closing <
> https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Bay-Area-locations-Frys-Electronics-…>
> . Sad, but not the end of an era ??? apparently the loss of lease
> >
> > When I last visited a couple months ago, the one in Wilsonville, Oregon
> hadn???t done any restocking to speak of (except a couple video games) for
> months. The shelves were largely bare, and all the places they used to
> store excess stock were empty. I might be down that way in a few weeks, if
> so I???ll try to check on the status of the store. I know in October there
> was a news article or two claiming they were in the process of restocking,
> but based on my last visit, they seem dead.
> >
> > Zane
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 13:28:16 -0800
> From: Ali <cctalk at ibm51xx.net>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: One of Bay Area's last Fry's Electronics stores closes
> Message-ID: <1MfprR-1jNMVN4Btx-00gIGd at mrelay.perfora.net>
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>
> -------- Original message --------From: Fred Cisin?Fry's says that they
> are doing fine.BUT, that they are moving to a "consignment" model - they
> now plan to pay their suppliers only AFTER the merchandise sells.Or at
> least that is what they are telling their creditors.They could revitalize
> the stores, if they would add Jolt Cola, Canfield's Diet Chocolate Fudge
> soda, potato chips, cookies, toothpaste, rosin-core lead solder, and
> electronic components.? Maybe even collaborate with Fat-Brain to open a
> computer literacy bookstore.--No. They are closing:
> http://www.tonetoatl.com/2019/12/Frys-Electronics-Closed-Duluth-Gwinnett-Pl…
> really can't see any manufacturers lining up behind the Fry's BS. They just
> don't have the foot traffic for it.?Now as Fred says if they went back to
> filling a niche that is very empty (i.e. an electronics part retailer with
> stock of hard to get goods on hand) that may work. I hate having to order
> 50 capacitors from China everytime I need one....?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 13:32:42 -0800
> From: "Ali" <cctalk at ibm51xx.net>
> To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: RE: One of Bay Area's last Fry's Electronics stores closes
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>
> Re-sending for legibility...
>
> >Fry's says that they
> > are doing fine.BUT, that they are moving to a "consignment" model -
> > they now plan to pay their suppliers only AFTER the merchandise
> > sells.Or at least that is what they are telling their creditors.They
> > could revitalize the stores, if they would add Jolt Cola, Canfield's
> > Diet Chocolate Fudge soda, potato chips, cookies, toothpaste, rosin-
> > core lead solder, and electronic components. Maybe even collaborate
> > with Fat-Brain to open a computer literacy bookstore.--
>
>
> No. They are closing:
> http://www.tonetoatl.com/2019/12/Frys-Electronics-Closed-Duluth-Gwinnett-Pl…
>
>
> I really can't see any manufacturers lining up behind the Fry's BS. They
> just don't have the foot traffic for it. Now as Fred says if they went back
> to filling a niche that is very empty (i.e. an electronics part retailer
> with stock of hard to get goods on hand) that may work. I hate having to
> order 50 capacitors from China every time I need one....
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 13:53:16 -0800
> From: jim stephens <jwsmail at jwsss.com>
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: One of Bay Area's last Fry's Electronics stores closes
> Message-ID: <e4b87d92-ab2b-de42-6975-33888b5cc384 at jwsss.com>
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>
>
> On 12/31/2019 1:32 PM, Ali via cctalk wrote:
> > Re-sending for legibility...
> >
> >> Fry's says that they
> >> are doing fine.BUT, that they are moving to a "consignment" model -
> >> they now plan to pay their suppliers only AFTER the merchandise
> >> sells.Or at least that is what they are telling their creditors.They
> >> could revitalize the stores, if they would add Jolt Cola, Canfield's
> >> Diet Chocolate Fudge soda, potato chips, cookies, toothpaste, rosin-
> >> core lead solder, and electronic components. Maybe even collaborate
> >> with Fat-Brain to open a computer literacy bookstore.--
> >
> > No. They are closing:
> http://www.tonetoatl.com/2019/12/Frys-Electronics-Closed-Duluth-Gwinnett-Pl…
> >
> >
> > I really can't see any manufacturers lining up behind the Fry's BS. They
> just don't have the foot traffic for it. Now as Fred says if they went back
> to filling a niche that is very empty (i.e. an electronics part retailer
> with stock of hard to get goods on hand) that may work. I hate having to
> order 50 capacitors from China every time I need one....
> They actually were changing to a way of flooring the merchandise closer
> to the food industry.? Many things on the shelf in larger supermarkets
> are actually managed and stocked at the expense of the people who have
> the shelfspace.? So that becomes critical.
>
> Years ago a drug chain called Zody's used the same method, but for
> entire areas of stock, not by item.
>
> A friend had a pitabread business and went into Ralphs (Krogers in
> Southern ,CA).? The buyin for about 2' of space was about $500,000 then
> you had to supply the stock.? Payback came to you when you shipped more
> to them than they returned or discarded stale (or put in markdown).
>
> Frito-Lay as well as some of the alcohol aisle actually send in
> personnel twice a day to do the stocking.? The store staff doesn't touch
> it.
>
> Anyway it doesn't seem to be happening, i heard the story Fred has 3
> months ago, and it doesn't take this long to do the deal if it's going
> to work.
>
> Years ago when they expanded a friend who had a similar electronics
> business said that the electronics side of Fry's was done with large
> amounts of debt.? My friend's store was well positioned to expand, but
> they wouldn't do the debt model Fry's did.
>
> That said, either Fry's is profitable, or they've paid down their debt
> to where they can withstand what is going on.? If it were a business
> with a large debt load the banks wouldn't let them take a week, must
> less 3 months and counting to do what is going on.
>
> And those 100,000sf store rent keeps on ticking full or empty.
>
> thanks
> Jim
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 14:02:13 -0800 (PST)
> From: Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: One of Bay Area's last Fry's Electronics stores closes
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1912311359300.24943 at shell.lmi.net>
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>
> Who else, but Fry's, has had the impact that third parties have posted
> Fry's employment applications?
>
> jhttp://homepage.smc.edu/engfer_mark/frys.htm
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 16:28:34 -0600
> From: John Herron <barythrin at gmail.com>
> To: Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com>, "General Discussion: On-Topic
> and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: One of Bay Area's last Fry's Electronics stores closes
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> Two brilliant minds on this list drinking Canfield's Diet Chocolate Fudge
> soda? Guess I need to hop on this mystery band wagon.
>
> Our Fry's in Austin has also suffered over months of almost nothing on
> shelves. Definitely doesn't have the feeling of a company doing well.
> They've lost several sales from friends and myself that would have bought
> an item if we could see it in person and had it "now".
>
> Ashame they (and online shopping?) knocked out almost all the other
> retailers and competition from town.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 04:24:03 +0000
> From: Mike Begley <spam at hell.org>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: New Member Introduction
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> Hello! New member to cctalk here. I am located in Seattle, and in the
> past have worked for a couple largish companies in the Seattle area you've
> heard of.
>
> Through the 80s and 90s I had accumulated a fairly sizable collection of
> classic (and not yet classic) computers. Mostly this was along two
> branches of machines - Atari 8 bit computers and 80s-era minicomputers &
> workstations, including a couple smaller VAXen, a PDP-8 and a large stack
> of HP9000/300 machines. Also I had a couple of no-name S-100 machines and
> a pretty nice one from California Computer Systems.
>
> When I moved from the Midwest following college I had to abandon much of
> that collection. In the last several years I have started to reconstitute
> that collection, at least in the basics. I'm still looking for a genuine
> VT100 (or stretch goal - VT278), and in 2020 I'm planning to finally bring
> up a simulated VAX cluster using Raspberry Pis and SIMH, since original
> hardware is pretty much impossible to find anymore (and fragile when you
> can find it). It's frustrating to be hunting for things I had three or
> four of at one point...
>
> Happy to be here,
> -mike begley
> spam at hell.org
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 04:38:35 +0000
> From: Mike Begley <spam at hell.org>
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> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: RE: One of Bay Area's last Fry's Electronics stores closes
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> >>
> >> Palo Alto Fry?s closing <
> https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Bay-Area-locations-Frys-Electronics-…
> >> . Sad, but not the end of an era ? apparently the loss of lease
> >
> > When I last visited a couple months ago, the one in Wilsonville, Oregon
> hadn?t done any restocking to speak of
> > (except a couple video games) for months. The shelves were largely
> bare, and all the places they used to store
> > excess stock were empty. I might be down that way in a few weeks, if so
> I?ll try to check on the status of the
> > store. I know in October there was a news article or two claiming they
> were in the process of restocking,
> > but based on my last visit, they seem dead.
>
> I went to the one outside Seattle a few months ago, and the shelves were
> perhaps 15-20% full, at best. It was kinda creepy and kinda sad. We
> chatted with one of the stockers, and they said that they just didn't have
> the traffic to bring in inventory, so it's the chicken & the egg problem.
> They're were also allocating part of the store to do online fulfillment,
> and just trying to ramp up their online presence.
>
> I doubt they'll last until spring. There's no way they can afford the
> rent, inventory and payroll on the amount of customers they have these days.
>
> -mike
> spam at hell.org
>
>
>
>
> End of cctech Digest, Vol 64, Issue 1
> *************************************
>
Hello! New member to cctalk here. I am located in Seattle, and in the past have worked for a couple largish companies in the Seattle area you've heard of.
Through the 80s and 90s I had accumulated a fairly sizable collection of classic (and not yet classic) computers. Mostly this was along two branches of machines - Atari 8 bit computers and 80s-era minicomputers & workstations, including a couple smaller VAXen, a PDP-8 and a large stack of HP9000/300 machines. Also I had a couple of no-name S-100 machines and a pretty nice one from California Computer Systems.
When I moved from the Midwest following college I had to abandon much of that collection. In the last several years I have started to reconstitute that collection, at least in the basics. I'm still looking for a genuine VT100 (or stretch goal - VT278), and in 2020 I'm planning to finally bring up a simulated VAX cluster using Raspberry Pis and SIMH, since original hardware is pretty much impossible to find anymore (and fragile when you can find it). It's frustrating to be hunting for things I had three or four of at one point...
Happy to be here,
-mike begley
spam at hell.org
Good news! After a bit of a configuration nightmare (it is more complicated than Worldpay) I have got it working.
I will test a couple more times and then figure out what we need to do to make it live.
Mark
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On Mon, 2019-12-23 at 12:00 -0600, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote:
> Re: First Internet message and ...
I read the caselaw in the GUI war cases of the 80's. Microsoft and
apple were battling over features and everyone else was being weighed.
There are nice comparative tables, TOS/GEM vs OS/2, vs Amiga, vs,
Windows..... Vs. Smalltalk.
The Xerox btw, comes out ahead of everyone.
Jeff
Is there a way to get an HP-IB disk unit with an ST412 or ESDI type HDA inside to perform a low-level format?
I think this is what 'mediainit' is maybe supposed to do (based on being able to change the interleave) but I don't see any way to map bad blocks (etc.) using it. The -r 'recertify' option is apparently only valid for tape.
I have a 7946A with a Vertex V170 that needs some new blocks marked bad. There's nothing on it I need to keep, but if I use 'mediainit' on it, it fails pretty quick with an I/O error. From the sounds it makes, it's hitting the first defect (at block 64) and giving up.
# ioscan -f
Class H/W Path Driver H/W Status S/W Status
=================================================
hpib 7 98624 ok(0x301) ok
disk 7.0 cs80 ok(0x220) ok
tape_drive 7.0 cs80 ok(0x220) ok
serial 9 98626 ok(0x10) ok
scsi 14 98265 ok(0x313) ok
disk 14.2 scsi ok(0x202) ok
lan 21 lla ok(0x30f) ok
# mediainit -v -i 1 /dev/rdsk/c7d0s0
mediainit: initialization process starting
mediainit: locking the volume
mediainit: performing a describe command
mediainit: running diagnostics
mediainit: initializing media
mediainit: initialize media command failed - I/O error
#
I know it's doing something to the disk because the data that was in the first 64 blocks is now zeroed out.
# dd if=/dev/dsk/c7d0s0 count=64 | od -x
0000000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
*
64+0 records in
64+0 records out
0100000
# dd if=/users/bear/7946A.dd count=1 | od -x
0000000 0030 7375 2e72 0032 0000 0200 0000 0000
0000020 0000 0100 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
0000040 0000 0000 1190 1202 0644 0000 0000 0000
0000060 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
*
64+0 records in
64+0 records out
0100000
#
ok
bear.
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until further notice
Well, I've been working on all these RL02 drives and such in an effort
to repair the pdp11/73 that I used to bring to science fiction
conventions in the 1980's and 1990's. TALOS was the new system, BALCON
(after Balticon) was the older system that ran on RL01's and would
require me hauling a 6 foot rack of gear in a 1971 station wagon. Oh
those were the days, splitting power with the laser frobs and running
multi-player games back in the late 80's....
Anyway, Talos suffered a failure a long time ago and has been dead
since. Now that I have time and space I've been working on fixing it.
First step was to find out if anything worked, turned out one of my RL02
controllers was flakey and one of my RL02 drives had a very naughty head
that resulted in the destruction of my RSXM38 boot pack. And the memory
was unhappy. But the 11/73 CPU was sound.
After fixing that junk I was able to boot RT11 and install it on one of
the partitions of the Fujitsu ESDI disk (MTI controller, has two
partitions per disk each about 70mb in size). So finally the system and
drive logic was working but trying to boot the RSX11M image just gave me
a trap to zero fault.
First step was to fix a RSX11M 4.2 system disk. Did a quick sysgen on
SIMH, built to a RL02 pack image, then once that was up and working with
DU: driver support (the out of the box disks do not support DU:) I was
able to transfer the image over serial using pdp11GUI (great tool!) to
the RL02 drive. Now I could boot RSX11M on the RL02. However I knew that
I had only one shot to fix the Fuji drive, and I wished I had a backup.
Wait! I can make a backup of the Fuji drive using PDP11GUI! Upped the
baud rate on the 11/73 from 9600 to 38400, loaded the drivers, fired it
up, and let it run for 7 hours to copy the disk image. Really
interesting that there were no errors, meaning the disk image itself was
not the problem. Hm....
Then I made a copy on my laptop (took less than a second, sigh) and
realized I could boot the RSX11M image on SIMH *and* mount the Fuji
volume copy to find out what was up.
Booted the image, mounted the disk, and took a look. Found it pretty
quickly: Back in 1997 I was doing a cleanup of the system and did a
purge of old versions of files in [1,54]. I must have had a later
version of RSX11M there from a VMR operation that I never committed to
disk, and when I purged the older version it was the one that the boot
block was trying to reference. Thus the system ran fine but when I shut
it down and booted it a few years later it could not find the deleted
file and crashed out.
Simple. Solution was to set the default to DU2:[1,54], then boot
du2:rsx11m, hit G when the XDT debugger came up, then type SAV /WB to
re-write the boot block with the correct version of the RSX11m file.
Sure enough, the system booted up, complained about not finding the
DZV11 cards (I had removed them for testing) and was working. Shut down
the RL02 drive, did a cold restart, and TALOS came up and online :-)
Now I need to figure out what to do with it. I think it has DecNet 11/M
4.0 on it, so I could do a Phase II link with another system over serial
ports/tcpip to serial gateways. If I can find the later versions of
Decnet 11/M I could probably gen an Ethernet card and do a gateway to
TCP/IP systems. Anyone want to peer with this old system?
Overall this was an interesting little project: It required me to dust
off my hardware, software, and OS level troubleshooting skills. Now that
the system is up I can start working on hooking up the RX01 drives to
get the PDT11/150 some fixed disks, then start thinking about the 20/20
core in the shed.....
Never dull, and thank you everyone for the help and the tools.