At 10:31 PM 9/26/97 -0700, you wrote:
>I only average about 30 - 50 messages/day and it only takes minutes to look
>at them. My sort routine consists of read followed by a manual trash or
>classify ... or put the decision off :). At what point (as far as
>messages/day) does it make sense to use a filter to sort?
I get about 100-150 per day and haven't gotten around to installing Eudora
Pro (which includes filtering) yet. Still, one of these days, I'll get
around to it.
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<I called Intel Customer Service directly - they have no information on thi
<chip in their database.
Not surprizing, they have lousy memories. My '82 and '83 data books list
them. They are preliminary in the '82book. At that time I'd seem them in
the flesh and they were about $150 each. The actual chips were a mask trade
with AMD for some of intels parts. I don't think intel ever acually made
them as the ones I'd seen though intel branded were AMD foundry marks on the
die! That was common practice then and likely now.
<Obtaining one of these chips is a nice-to-have, not critical, so I'll proba
<let this die for now. But thank you, gentlemen, for your assistance!
last I'd seen either they were far from cheap! I's suspect if your can find
them they will either go cheap of if they sellers know their limited
availability real expensive. Also since the sourcing of them was at best
questionable many designers stayed away from them.
FYI: I looked at them and while they appeared faster than general math
routines on a z80 bytime you did the IO to them and all they could be much
slower than a good asm coded routine.
Allison
On Fri, 26 Sep 1997 23:13:05, Kip Crosby <engine(a)chac.org> wrote:
>I called a guy who was a logic designer at Intel during the period and who
>has samples of most of the pertinent Intel chips from, say, the 8048 to
>current. He has no 8232 and claims never to have seen one or a data sheet
>for it. It was so lackadaisically marketed by Intel that he suspects it
>was a cross-license from AMD and that someone at Intel objected to the
>architecture.
I called Intel Customer Service directly - they have no information on this
chip in their database.
On Fri, 26 Sep 1997 21:49:24, William Donzelli <william(a)ans.net> wrote:
>Are both of those chips even still in production? If not, that might be a
>real challenge. I remember trying to get one of AMD super neat database
>coprocessors, but really felt a great deal of resistance by the sales
>people and the distributors.
>
>One note: many sales offices are decent (Motorola), and will look up (and
>copy) data for long gone chips.
According to Intel, the 8231A was discontinued in 1996. They mentioned
Rochester Electronics as a possible second-source. I accessed Rochester's
web site but was unable to locate any reference using their search feature.
Obtaining one of these chips is a nice-to-have, not critical, so I'll probably
let this die for now. But thank you, gentlemen, for your assistance!
Regards,
Jason Brady jrbrady(a)delphi.com Seattle, WA
go scsi, www.allelec.com I have a 100meg scsi on my GS
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> From: Richard A. Cini, Jr. <rcini(a)classic.msn.com>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Apple II hard drive??
> Date: Monday, September 29, 1997 12:06 PM
>
>
> What's the best solution for attaching some form of mass-storage to an
Apple
> II+?
>
>
>
> Rich Cini/WUGNET
> <rcini(a)msn.com>
> I don't know if it is the same company or not, but Laser PC's are very
> common in Australia - although the 286's which I knew tended to have
> problems with their hard drives.
This one sure does - it seems to have ritually destroyed its FAT.
> There are also PC/XT's, and 386's. There
> were also a couple of Laser laptop/palmtops, along the lines of the Tandy
> 100 and Amstrad NC-100. They show up on the second hand market all the
> time, and I keep meaning to pick up a couple.
Very neat. I'd love to see a scan of one of these. Does anybody know of
a source?
Thanks for the info,
--
Ben Coakley coakley(a)ac.grin.edu
Station Manager, KDIC 88.5 FM CBEL: Xavier OH
http://www.math.grin.edu/~coakley
Yes it is the one and the same company, in my younger days, I sold
computers at Sears, who carried the Laser line. They sold both PC and
Apple][ compatables.
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> From: Adam Jenkins <adam(a)merlin.net.au>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: Laser?
> Date: Monday, September 29, 1997 5:36 AM
>
> >I knew that Laser made Apple ][ clones - I've seen a few in thrift
stores,
> >but never bought one. But a friend of mine just appeared with a Laser
286/2 -
> >it's definitely the same logo. Did they make other PC clones? He's
from
> >Toronto - did they sell their PC clones in the US as well?
>
> I don't know if it is the same company or not, but Laser PC's are very
> common in Australia - although the 286's which I knew tended to have
> problems with their hard drives. There are also PC/XT's, and 386's.
There
> were also a couple of Laser laptop/palmtops, along the lines of the Tandy
> 100 and Amstrad NC-100. They show up on the second hand market all the
> time, and I keep meaning to pick up a couple.
>
> Adam.
>
>I knew that Laser made Apple ][ clones - I've seen a few in thrift stores,
>but never bought one. But a friend of mine just appeared with a Laser 286/2 -
>it's definitely the same logo. Did they make other PC clones? He's from
>Toronto - did they sell their PC clones in the US as well?
I don't know if it is the same company or not, but Laser PC's are very
common in Australia - although the 286's which I knew tended to have
problems with their hard drives. There are also PC/XT's, and 386's. There
were also a couple of Laser laptop/palmtops, along the lines of the Tandy
100 and Amstrad NC-100. They show up on the second hand market all the
time, and I keep meaning to pick up a couple.
Adam.
I knew that Laser made Apple ][ clones - I've seen a few in thrift stores,
but never bought one. But a friend of mine just appeared with a Laser 286/2 -
it's definitely the same logo. Did they make other PC clones? He's from
Toronto - did they sell their PC clones in the US as well?
Thanks,
--
Ben Coakley coakley(a)ac.grin.edu
Station Manager, KDIC 88.5 FM CBEL: Xavier OH
http://www.math.grin.edu/~coakley
This weekend I acquired an HP-97 calculator dating from 1967! It
includes a thermal printer and mag card reader.
When I got it home I found that it rattled, so I dismantled it and found
two large burnt out resistors on the keyboard PCB. The rattle was caused
by pieces of these resistors in the case.
Does anyone have docs sufficient to determine the replacement parts for
these resistors?
What is the power input requirements for the HP-97?
Regards,
Hans B Pufal
Comprehensive Computer Catalogue
<http://www.digiweb.com/~hansp/ccc/>
<mailto:hansp@digiweb.com>
