Due to massive amounts of caffeine & sleep deprivation, Anthony Clifton said:
>In addition, I'd like to have episodes of Riptide on tape, which also
>featured a hacker as a main character along with a goofy robot. No
>Knight Rider thank you...intelligent cars just don't trip my trigger.
Sorry, tho I did like Riptide while it was on, Knight Rider is much better
of the two for me... Let's put this into perspective:
Riptide: Geeky guy who takes junk and builds robots with it to try to win
friendship with two macho PI's and almost never gets laid...
Knight Rider: Super-intelligent gorgeous _babe_ designs & builds ultimate
300mph _babe-magnet_ that can drive itself while you [circle one] (look
at)(chat with)(make whoopie with) _babes_, or play Intellivision if there
are no babes around...
;^> ;^>
It's the Sandra Bullock syndrome all over again.... but I like it!
(Tho I'll definately concede the point that 40-column Apple ][ basic
listings filled with nothing but PRINT statements is not what I'd consider
to give intelligence to a car... :-) Of course, how they got that Apple ][
to play Intellivision games was a technological wonder! ;-)
[the mind's not totally clear on the Intellivision point, but I'm sure it
was a commercially available video game system... It's been a while since
I've seen it]
Just MHO,
"Merch"
--
Roger Merchberger | Why does Hershey's put nutritional
Programmer, NorthernWay | information on their candy bar wrappers
zmerch(a)northernway.net | when there's no nutritional value within?
Tony Duell <ard(a)odin.phy.bris.ac.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 1997, William Donzelli wrote:
>
> > > > > 2895B Tape Punch #1632A03303 FACIT model 4070
> > > >
> > > > Yep, this is a badge-engineered Facit paper-tape punch.
> >
> > Mine came with some sort of rack mount kit that I have not been able to
> > comprehend yet. I think I am missing parts.
>
> There is a rackmount kit shown in the Facit 4070 service manual/parts
> catalogue (which I have). I can look up how that one goes together and
> post details.
>
> >From memory it consists of a frame that fits round the 4070 chassis (the
> 4070 sits with the reels on the right, and the reels themselves vertical.
> There are little friction pads at the bottom to prevent it sliding out,
> and clamp screws that go in from the top to hold it in place. The whole
> frame mounts in the rack in the usual way.
I have one of the HP rack mounts in my living room right now (on its way
to storage with the punch). Unfortunately I can't post pictures for
y'all but here is how it goes.
Basically it is a sliding shelf with a front, with a hole in the front
for the chad box to poke through. There's a little metal plate
screwed to the shelf near the front, as well as a couple of black plastic
circles toward the rear. Those are just guides to keep the punch
>from wiggling around too much as it punches.
There are also a couple of dividers screwed down and held apart
with standoffs toward the left of the shelf. At a guess these make a
handy place to store a few reels of paper tape for when you have to
refill the punch.
Finally there are screw-downs for a twisted pair of wires that go up
to a power light mounted in the front of the rack. Well, it's supposed
to be there, the lightbulb is missing on mine; I think it got mashed in
shipment.
The shelf needs to slide so you can get tape off the takeup reel (if
you don't just let it spill out the front), get at the punch's
controls and most of the tape path, and feed the punch. Oh, also note
that there is a little widget at center rear between the shelf and the
frame; this is to keep the shelf from sliding out due to vibration
>from the punch.
> I _believe_ there's a special (metal?) chad box and front lid on rackmount
> 4070's. Oh, and the writing on the control panel is turned through 90
> degrees so that it's readable when the unit is in the rack. All my 4070's
> are table-top models.
It isn't clear to me that my 2895 punch is any different from a table-top
unit. Smoked-plastic chad box, BTW.
> > My sense (i.e. ears) tell me that the power supply is a switching type,
> > probably one of the first for computers, an is probably a bear to fix. Of
> > course, all of the house numbered HP parts does not help either.
>
> Switching PSUs don't bother me. The HP seems to have a large 50/60Hz
> transformer, so the chopper is (I guess) on the low voltage side anyway
> (like on most PDP11s). That sort of supply is not that hard to fix _given
> schematics_. Heck, if I can get a Boschert 2-stage running again, I can
> handle just about anything :-)
OK OK OK. I am planning on pulling all my 2100 manuals out for y'all.
I can't do it just yet, though; there are other things ahead in the
queue. Maybe this weekend if I can get some other pieces into place.
Fair warning: I am a software kind of guy; I know what a schematic
looks like but you shouldn't count on much more. OTOH, I can work
a photocopier.
If y'all are interested in a little story about the 2100 power supply,
I suggest getting Analytical Engine 2.3 from CHAC's web/ftp site and
reading the interview with Barney Oliver. One spoiler: yes, it is a
switching power supply, and there was something patentable in its
design.
-Frank McConnell
did everyone else also notice that when the kids were at the bank hacking the
atm, as the pin numbers were scrolling down, it was making old mac disk drive
access sounds? =D
david
In a message dated 97-09-24 13:02:55 EDT, you write:
<< On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, Faiaz, Michael C. HSD wrote:
> Do you remember what the palm top was in T2?
It was a little Atari palmtop I believe.
Anthony Clifton - WireHead Prime
>>
Make all the words you utter soft and sweet, for you never know, which ones
you will someday have to eat. :)
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> From: Anthony Clifton <wirehead(a)retrocomputing.com>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: War Games
> Date: Wednesday, September 24, 1997 11:52 AM
>
>
>
> > > "Do you remember when you asked me to tell you when you were acting
> > > rudely and insensitively? Well, you're doing it right now." It
sounds
> > > EXACTLY like conversations between me and this skinny techno-dweeb I
work
> > > with.
> >
> > I wouldn't let guys like that work at my company.
>
> Er....two responses....
>
> Judge not lest ye be judged.
>
> ...and the thing about walking in another guy's footwear.
>
> Anthony Clifton - WireHead Prime
>
Anybody that can help her out?
(What's a HP150 anyway?)
She is not a subscriber to this list so if you can help, please e-mail her
directly.
Thanks!
LeS
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 16:57:51 -0700
From: Brigid Cumming <bcumming(a)island.net>
To: more(a)camlaw.Rutgers.EDU
Subject: HP 150 II
My husband brought home a touchscreen Hewlett Packard 150 II. He has its
original manuals & it fires up fine. Could you help me find more
information on and applications for this computer?
Thanks,
Brigid Cumming
bcumming(a)island.net
Do you remember what the palm top was in T2?
----------
From: Uncle Roger
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: Computers in Movies (was: War Games)
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 1997 3:37AM
At 02:09 PM 9/23/97 -0500, you wrote:
>First, why use a 300 baud acoustic coupler (which strangely seems to
>operate at 300, 1200, 2400, 9600, 19200 and 38400 during different
>scenes) when you've got a perfectly good 1200 baud direct connect sitting
>on the monitor?
On a similar note, Anyone else notice that Messrs. Redford, Poitier, et
al
were using an Atari 830 300bps Acoustic Coupler for their super-duper,
high-tech, bounce-around-the-world phone call to James Earl Jones?
And in True Stories, the talking heads guy (whose name I can't remember
this
late at night) ran into the nerd from Varicor in the mall as he was
coming
out of a store loaded down with 8-bit atari stuff.
And in Terminator 2, the scientist is working at his desk full of Atari
16-bit stuff (including at least a TT) when the kid's mom tries to blow
him
away. When he does finally bite the big one, it's in a room full of old
HP
7925 & 7933 disk drives -- Could it be coincidence that just before T2
came
out, HP was having a big promo to turn those in as trade-ins on newer
drives? I don't think so!
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sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know."
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San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
At 09:38 PM 9/23/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Sam I've been trying to send message to you for over a week. I get yours but
>can't reply. Here is a sample of what I get.
The problem is that CRL (Sam's and My provider) has arbitrarily decided to
cut off incoming mail from various providers. Juno, Earthlink, probably
others. They claim it's because they want to stop spam, but not only do I
still get 10+ spams a day, but I get it with From: addresses that they've
supposedly blocked.
Meanwhile, my sister. friends, and clients cannot send me e-mail. Sam can
be reached at <vcf(a)siconic.com> and I can be reached at
<sinasohn(a)ricochet.net>. I dunno if Paul Coad has another e-mail address or
not (He's on CRL too.)
>>>> MAIL From:<ccm(a)sentex.net> SIZE=1961
><<< 550 Access denied
>554 <dastar(a)crl.com>... Service unavailable
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sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
The HP 150 is a (not) IBM compatible, circa 1985. It's an 8088 that
runs a wacky disk format with a correspondingly wacky OEM version of
MS-DOS. I have one of these machines, but don't have the DOS for it.
It'll run a small subset of early MS-DOS based software that doesn't
make any hardware accesses -- sort of the same situation as a DEC
Rainbow. There's a FAQ at
http://www.mdn.com/oksoftware/Computers/hp150faq.html.
Kai
> ----------
> From: Mr. Self Destruct[SMTP:more@camlaw.rutgers.edu]
> Reply To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 1997 8:18 AM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: HP 150 II (fwd)
>
>
>
> Anybody that can help her out?
>
> (What's a HP150 anyway?)
>
> She is not a subscriber to this list so if you can help, please e-mail
> her
> directly.
>
> Thanks!
> LeS
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 16:57:51 -0700
> From: Brigid Cumming <bcumming(a)island.net>
> To: more(a)camlaw.Rutgers.EDU
> Subject: HP 150 II
>
> My husband brought home a touchscreen Hewlett Packard 150 II. He has
> its
> original manuals & it fires up fine. Could you help me find more
> information on and applications for this computer?
>
> Thanks,
> Brigid Cumming
> bcumming(a)island.net
>
Ok, I went out and rented _War Games_ because I'm a total nerd and wanted
to see David's IMSAI. I noticed a couple interesting things in the
movie. First, in one scene early on where david is sitting in front of
his computer, they show it head on, and you can see sitting on top of his
monitor his modem, which had on it "IMSAI 212A MODEM". Did IMSA, in
fact, manufacture a 1200 baud modem? He also had an IMSAI labeled keyboard!
A neat thing: at the end of the movie during the credits they get to
thanking those who provided technical assistance. The first company
listed is none other than "CompuPro Division, Godbout Electronics". Very
cool! Others listed were Televideo, Fischer-Freitas (why does that sound
familiar and did I get the Fischer part right?), Memorex, Qume, and about
10 others.
Anyway, pretty cool flick. It combines elements of hacking, phreaking
(where he grounds the microphone on the old ground-start payphone, a real
ball-sy scene since that was a real-life trick you could pull in those
days) and of course classic computers!
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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I was walking past the scrap pile a few weeks back when I saw a large PCB
that appeared to be part of a DG Nova system. Digging a little further
produced another 3 boards, the cabinet/PSU (alas missing the fan), and
the frontpanel bezel. This identified the machine as a DG Nova 1210.
Since there are only 4 slots in the backplane, I think I have all the
cards. What I have is a Nova CPU board (with _1_ 74181 - did this machine
really have a 4 bit ALU?), a core memory board and 2 custom I/O boards
(missing a few TTL chips, but the locations are labeled with the 74xx
number, so that's no problem). I am missing the lights/switches board.
Does anyone know anything about this machine? I assume it's worth saving.
A schematic would be useful (or at least a description of the frontpanel
board and its interface), since then I could probably recreate the front
panel and get it running again.
-tony
