At 15:04 9/21/97 -0700, Don Maslin wrote:
>No I don't [know who wants the IMS,] Pete, but I am forwarding this to
classic computers list
>where it will get much wider distribution.
> - don
I just told McCracken that we did. The first computer I ever owned was one
of the IMS all-in-one-piece single-user desktops, which is now in our
collection (still running, video weak,) and it would be excellent to have
one of the multi-terminal minis to go with it. Thank you Don.
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Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org
http://www.chac.org/index.html
Computer History Association of California
On Sun, 21 Sep 1997, Pete V. McCracken wrote:
> Have access to an IMS (Z-80 based???) multi-user, TurboDos computer
> system with dBase 2.0, CYMA Accounting System, Wordstar 3.0, three
> terminals and keyboards.
>
> Do you know of anyone who might be interested? It is planned for the
> scrapheap in the very near future.
No I don't, Pete, but I am forwarding this to classic computers list
where it will get much wider distribution.
- don
> --
> Pete V. McCracken
> Country Western Style Dance Center
> 341 E. Olive Ave., Porterville, CA 93257-4890
> CWSDanceCenter(a)ocsnet.net 209 784-2341 FAX 209-784-6192
>
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Don Maslin - Keeper of the Dina-SIG CP/M System Disk Archives
Chairman, Dina-SIG of the San Diego Computer Society
Clinging tenaciously to the trailing edge of technology.
Sysop - Elephant's Graveyard (CP/M) - 619-454-8412
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see old system support at http://www.psyber.com/~tcj
Remeber that S/36 I was gonna get for $200? I just got it for free.
I'm told it runs RPG. The key for it was lost, so I can't boot the
machine 'till I short the appropriate pins to Service position.
All the docs and disks are gone too.
Any idea what to do with it?
I'm trying to find a twinax terminal for it now.
Picked up a Apple Techstep testing unit with case and all manuals, sofware,
and cables. Unit has modules for MAC Classic,SE,SE/30, II, IIx, IIcx and
SCSI HD's. I would like to find the test modules that work on the machines
made after the IIcx, if Apple made any. I went to their web site and found
nothing about these units. The one I have is from 1992. Also this wek
picked up the following items; Apple graphics tablet interface card with pen
(free), ThunderScan unit for MAC (free), Franklin PC8000 (.80), New unopen
box joysticks for Color computer, and about 6 different manuals from early
micro's to IBM maintenance analysis procedures for the 6360 diskette unit
6580 display station. All told it was a very good week. Keep computing !!
On Fri, 19 Sep 1997, Sam Ismail wrote:
> AuctionWeb is ridiculous. While there are some great finds there, I've
> realized that whatever I bid on I will end up finding a week or two later
> locally for a tenth or less of what I bid. The prices for stuff on there
> are horribly inflated.
That's jus like all auctions. People get caught up in the bidding and forget
what things are really worth. I see prices both ways. I've sold things there for
way less than their value also. They always sell for less than the average
asking price on usenet. Recently, bidding is way down. Either due to the good
weather or the influx of other on-line auction companies. Apple IIc-$15, Mac 512
complete-$24.
> Don't bid on the item. That is, not until the last 5-10 minutes of the
> auction. This serves two purposes that ultimately benefit you. 1) If you
> bid early, it gives someone a chance to come in and outbid you early, then
> you will counter-bid, then he will, then you will, etc. You get into a
> bidding war. 2) If you bid just before the auction is over, you avoid 1).
> You'll get in with a low-ball bid and hopefully nobody else will get a
> chance to outbid you in the last remaining minutes, although I've had some
> close calls. I once bid on an item (forgot what) at the last minute and
> some character tried to do the same but his bid was late. In the same
> token, I've had that happen to me where I was just too late. The problem
> is, if you try to bid just before the auction ends (like within 1-2
> minutes of closing) there are about 14 other dweebs like you trying to put
> in last minute bids. The record in the database for that item becomes so
> locked up that nobody can make a bid, and your effort is futile.
That's how the experts do it. I've seen auctions where after the ending time of
the auction, the bidding can continue for 5 minutes (Onsale?). This means
whenever a bid is entered, there's 5 minutes added to the clock. That would
eliminate that scenario. I've had lots of people email me with higher offers
because they didn't get in quick enough. I've missed items because my connection
is slow.
> The seller usually comes out on the short end of the stick.
> Bidders wait until the last possible second and put in a bid that's not
> necessarily fair market value.
You can always put in a reserve price. You are also allowed to bid on your own
item once during the auction. This rule is a little strange but I assume they
allow it because bidding might be way below what they want to sell the item for.
Doesn't make buyers happy though. I've only used it a couple times when someone
locally made a legitimate offer for an item, never to boost the bid.
> In real life, the bidding keeps going until one person concedes or passes
> out. These onlines auctions need to instate some similar format.
The system used by Onsale (I think) eliminates this.
> I just realized this message is horribly off-topic but I just had to
> complain about something today.
My reply is off-topic too, oh well. Since many people here use AuctionWeb it's
not that far off. I like using it because I usually don't have a clue what this
stuff is worth. It's worth what people will pay.
Hi ClassicCmp,
Issue 4.2 of the CHAC?s journal, the ANALYTICAL ENGINE, will commemorate
the 20th anniversary of the Apple ][ and its descendants. As it happens,
I?m in the middle :-) of writing the lead article :-) and I?m wondering if
you could help me with a few data points. In spite of the laudable work
done by Liethen, Mates and Weyhrich -- all of which I've gone through with
some care -- the rest of this stuff is still remarkably hard to find.
What I?m looking for is:
? Date, or at least month and year, of introduction, and location if pertinent
? "Secret" (internal development) name ? I realize there may have been several
? Price of typical config at introduction
? Total number produced, even if approximate (tough)
? Date, or at least month and year, of discontinuance (sometimes tough)
and for these models:
Original ][
][plus
][ europlus
Original //e
//e Enhanced
"Expanded" //e (1987, the one with 64Kx4 RAM)
//c
//c+
//e Emulation Card for Mac LC
IIGS ROM 00, 01, 03, and the prototype-only 04
IIGS Upgrade Kit for //e, especially what it cost
I'm also in need of everything about the Black Apple II marketed by Bell &
Howell, including not only the above, but its technical specifications.
And, if anybody ever actually SAW a IIx and remembers what it looked like,
please let me know.
If there?s a model I?m missing, and I don?t think there is, please clue me;
but I hope that what I?m asking for, and the way I?m asking for it, will
reassure you that I?ve done some homework already. I have at least ONE of
these data items for every model listed, except the ][ europlus, but I
don?t have ALL of them for ANY model listed. If I could complete this
table with solid information, IMHO, it would be a significant contribution
to the literature.
Thanks in advance for your time and attention, and I hope you can and will
contribute. You?ll understand that I want the CHAC?s commemoration of this
quasi-eternal computer to be as good as we can make it.
cheers,
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Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org
http://www.chac.org/index.html
Computer History Association of California
Just ran across a Windows emulator for the HP-16 calculator (if you want an
RPN calc instead of AOS, this is neat Besides, it does hex, binary and octal
calculations.) It's freeware.
http://www.teleport.com/~dgh/hpsim.htm#wrpn
This is part of the HP calculator museum, which has all kinds of keen stuff,
including shots of old slide rules. It's at
http://www.teleport.com/~dgh/hpmuseum.html
