At 06:36 PM 06/09/97 +0000, you wrote:
>stared, look, no cdrom. And I was told by her that her husband
>brought new system for her daughter at cool price of 8000 cdn and I
>wondered about that price because her daughter needs a pc for her law
>study at college, The typical use is WP use in that kind of area
>even a $500-1000 base pentium system would fit very well for that!
>Again with $8000, Easy to get 3 VERY decent P5 166/64mb/2.5GB/new
>complete systems with truck loads of legal software for each
>pc and a good laser printer or two to go with either two of them.
Sounds like a candidate for the "Most Inappropriate use of Computer
Hardware Award" to me. A WP, you could stick WP5.1 on an 8088 if it comes to
that.
Sounds like a member of the administration (who will remain nameless to
protect the moronic) at the university I waste money in. Just after
purchasing a spanking new Pentium 166 with 64mb and all the goodies,
including an ATI All in Wonder card (on our nickel I might add!), he asked
his secretary to scare up a new template for WP5.1, For this is all he used
it for! (where's my wailin' stick when I need it :)
>as well. I want none of that ideas that Mr. Gates and funny PnP,
>winmodems that came out. I do not understand this.
I stay away from anything that uses "win" as a prefix. What, no jumpers?
Basically if Win95 can't get it to work on whatever IRQ or port that the
device wants, your screwed.
>This win95 (blows) leads to other options which I am looking at
>linux. Linux is very promising and I am learning to use it, trying
>to upgrade my old 2 4+ yr old 386 portables first also currently
>learning on my other pentium 75 o/c'ed to 100 lunchbox. Then install
>it on main pc when I feel more confident to put it to real use. :)
Looking for a UNIX like OS for you 386? Why don't you get MINIX? A lot
less overhead and pretty easy to set up. (not much out for it yet, put the
list grows everyday) You could even get a version of Xwindows for it, and
MINIX will run on an XT! (two versions, i86 and 386)
Speaking of UNIX-like OS's, anybody remember Sundown drives which came
loaded with Venix86? I believe a company called Unisource sold them. I
wonder if there may be a 'virgin' drive somewhere just waiting to be used... ;)
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20 of them just got trashed, but if you want a couple I'll be stopping in
the shop later this week and if they have a new batch in I will pick you up
a couple. We can settle up after I get them. They also have alot of SE's,
512's, and sometimes the 128's. There is also a thrift store here that
sells all computers for 80 cents including taxes. Everyone has started going
here and it's getting harder to catch any good machines there. If anyone
reading this is looking for HP stuff let me know as I passed on a complete
HP3000 for $10.
At 04:45 AM 9/7/97 -0200, you wrote:
>At 05:53 PM 06/09/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>I can get MAC Plus's for $5.35 including tax. I've have 3 or 4 already so I
>>just walk by them now.
>
> $5.35 taxes in?!? Where? I live in a MAC deprived world. I would be very
>interested in getting a few MAC plus's to add to my collection (i would be
>interested in getting anything to add to my collection) Please let me know
>where I could get some of these MACs
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$300!? I know its not april fool's day. I must have got a deal of the century
when I got a mac ][cx and 3.5 drive for $25...
david
In a message dated 97-09-06 14:26:50 EDT, you write:
<< A friend (yes, Virginia, I do have a friend) has a Mac plus for sale. 80
MB
HDD (I think)...software includes Claris Works and some other stuff. He
wants $300 US, but will probably be willing to negotiate.
manney(a)nwohio.com >>
Hi,
My find of the day was a "Northstar Advantage" and as per my normal luck
with CP/M systems no OS. Still it seems to power on OK.
I've got a few questions on it. First and formost would be where can I get
an OS (would the Osbourne version of CP/M boot it)? Is there a "Monitor
ROM" that I can drop the machine into? I see from the list of computers on
the mailing lists web site, it's got a Z80 and a i80186 processors in it,
OK that's nice, what does that mean to me? Also are there any good info
resources for the "Northstar Advantage"?
The one I've got has a 1" x 6" strip of metal with two threaded posts near
the top sticking out (great for messing up arms), it's been stuck to the
side of the case with that thin sticky foam, is this stock, or an add on?
Any ideas what on earth it's for? I'm thinking a copy stand.
Pardon my probable stupidity when it comes to CP/M systems, I think I'm up
to four of them now, but only the Osbourne has disks and it won't boot, I
think it's got a bad A: drive, because the disks boot a friends Osbourne.
Thanks,
Zane
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Hey everybody!
Well just got back from a vacation in the (California) bay area...
(Petaluma/Santa Rosa area to be more exact) and had a pretty
dissapointing time in my rummaging for goodies at thrift shops... Of
what I saw that took my notice were a Commodore 1902a monitor ($49, no
thanks..) and an un-priced 800 XL keyboard unit. I balked at how much
one place wanted to sell TRON figures ($15-$25 yikes!); I did get a
certain Pac-Man lunch pail I had my eye on for a few years...
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Of course as it normally seems to go for me, my local stops prove more
fruitfull. Some of the recent finds include a long sought-after October
1977 issue of Popular Science magazine (I remember seeing it on the
newsstands) which displays what seems to be a prototype PET on the cover
(w/rounded plastic case, only seen in promotional literature as far as
I've seen, PS seems to have added wood-grain contact paper for an
enhanced 'homey' look). Have scanned it and hope to put it on the site
within the upcoming month or so. Also picked up the March '79 and May
'83 issues as they had some cool pics of other early computers and home
robots in them.
Another very unexpected magazine find was four issues of ANTIC
magazine (thier focus is Atari 8-bits), a couple notable articles were
on building a lie-dectector and rigging your dot-matrix printer into an
image scanner, both utilize the paddle port pins and other easy to get
components and also sould be adaptable to the Commodore 64/VIC-20/128.
:)
Also bought a Fast Load Cartridge and C-64 Dust Cover (with a Protecto
logo, remember them?) for a couple bucks. Stuff passed by were a few 64
units (overpriced if you ask me), a couple Plus/4s (one unbeleivably
overpriced), and a PET (3.0 ROMs, 32k, w/book) that one was very
tempting, but I know how little space I have after my last trip to the
storage unit... Also passed a low-profile datasette (I have 30+
datasettes already but can you ever have enough cassette program
recorders?)
Saw a pretty complete ADAM system too: cpu (one tape drive), printer,
controllers, carts, tapes, books (including a misplaced PET book), a
couple extra ribbons all for $130 (choke!) though on Staturdays and
Wednesdays they sell stuff for 1/2 price (still way too much to me....)
Mac 512 (with doumentation), Mac SE, Tandy Model 100, etc.. I could
go very broke quick If I started collecting everything, good thing I
have control (ok... limited control, which is better then none at all.)
One of these vacations I'll get corrdinated enough with one of my
friends and spend a couple days in the Palo Alto/Silicon Valley area
combing thrift shops, I think I might find some suprises there...
Larry Anderson
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At 05:53 PM 06/09/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I can get MAC Plus's for $5.35 including tax. I've have 3 or 4 already so I
>just walk by them now.
$5.35 taxes in?!? Where? I live in a MAC deprived world. I would be very
interested in getting a few MAC plus's to add to my collection (i would be
interested in getting anything to add to my collection) Please let me know
where I could get some of these MACs
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On Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 allisonp(a)world.std.com (Allison J Parent) wrote:
<Well, I got the RD52 external HD on my MicroVAX-I working tonight. I swapp
<the blown power supply with a new surplus one. Had to redrill the case, but
>>A microvax-1? Really? Are you sure of that?
Isn't a VAXstation-I considered a MicroVAX-I? One of the FAQs that I read
made this reference, and it's a lot faster to type "uVAX" then "VAXstation"
<g>
>>Most of them couldn't support enough memory to run netbsd or ultrix.
>>Generally in their day it was 2mb, sometimes 3mb. The reason was the >>CPU
was two boards and memory at the time was either 512k or 1mb per >>board and
there was only 8 slots in a ba23. so the typical line up was cpu, >>4 memory
cards, an rqdx2 disk and a DHV or DZV serial card. the problem >>was that
would put the power supply 20% over the top!
This makes some sense. One of the first things that I had to fix was a melted
power supply cable between the power supply (375w) and the backplane. Here is
what I can see as the configuration: 4mb RAM, one DHV serial card, DEQNA
Ethernet, a M9047 board (??), M7512 buss extender, an RQDX1, MSV11-Q memory,
and 2 processor boards. I know that the MSV11 is only a 1mb board, but the
bootloader reports about 3.5mb of RAM. The model tag on the back lists
"610QK-XZ changed to VS20C-R2". It also has 2 internal floppy drives and one
internal RD52 hard drive.
<1. Since I don't know what is on the drive in the first place, how
< do I avoid a permanent destruction of the file system yet still
< correcting the problem?
>>Well you have to know whats on the drive first. I've never seen a MV-1
>>running ultrix though it may be possible.
<
<2. If <1> is not possible, how do I go about fixing the problem. I
< could not find a program named "fdisk", so either it had been
< deleted from the root partition, or it's under another name.
>>If it's ultrix then most unix conventions apply.
>>If you booted in single user mode you do not have full access to the
>>system.
Would I accomplish this by logging-in to the system? Unfortunately, I don't
have the root password. How can I get around this?
<3. The only way that I could get the drive to respond is to put
< the cable in the middle connector (J2). The drive did not
< respond at all in J1 or J3. There must be jumpers somewhere
< that govern this, like on the buss extender card, but I have
< no jumper map.
>>???? is this a ba23 or ba123? In a ba23 the rd52 disk is connected via
>>two cables to bulkhead J7 and J2. if its a ba123 with M9058 distribution
>>board then it's rd0(bottom most connector pair).
The "J2" refers to the J2 on the external RD52 drive case. The buss extender
is brought out to a DB50 to position "F" on the bulkhead. On the RD52 case,
there are three DB50 connectors, J1 to J3. The drive only responds when using
J2. Is this OK? How is this changed?
<4. {unrelated} Every time I restart the uVAX, it complains about
< the time needing to be reset. Do the uVAXen have internal
< clock batteries that have to be recharged/replaced?
<< TIA for any help!
>>Yes on the back of the console connector there is a battery pack of three
>>aaa sized nicads. pull them and charge them by hand. if they don't charge
>>you can find similar packs in many dec systems (rainbow, any ba23 or >>ba123
or vs2000 box). Also you can use any three cell pack for cordless >>phones
that fit.
Are you referring to the console connector on the bulkhead? On this unit,
there is no battery pack. It only has two ribbon cables going to the processor
boards.
With this additional info, what do you recommend to do now? Thanks again for
the help!
Rich Cini/WUGNET
rcini(a)msn.com
Rich
Does anyone where there more knowledgeable than I happen to know what
today's "going rate" is for old 8" diskettes. BLANK, and unlabeled...
otherwise in mint-condition with jackets. I am looking at buying some and
am curious as to how much they are usually sold for these days.
Thanks in advance,
CORD
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I can get MAC Plus's for $5.35 including tax. I've have 3 or 4 already so I
just walk by them now.
At 03:04 PM 9/5/97 -0400, you wrote:
>A friend (yes, Virginia, I do have a friend) has a Mac plus for sale. 80 MB
>HDD (I think)...software includes Claris Works and some other stuff. He
>wants $300 US, but will probably be willing to negotiate.
>
>manney(a)nwohio.com
>
>
>
