On 11/13/2011 2:56 PM, Don North wrote:
  On 11/13/2011 1:01 PM, ben wrote:
  On 11/13/2011 1:26 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
  ben wrote about FPGA boards:
  My beef is that all the low cost boards, still
needed to connected 
 the PC
  for use. You can't burn and go. 
 I've got about a dozen low-cost boards from the fairly ancient Spartan 2
 through the latest Spartan 6, and not a one of them doesn't have
 nonvolatile memory into which you can program the configuration
 bitstream. What low-cost boards have you looked at that don't have
 nonvolatile memory?
 
 Remember this is the classic computer list so, being about 10 years
 behind is normal
 around here. What can you recommend that has 5 volt I/O, nonvolatile
 memory and
 mid-sized number of FPGA macro cells. Something one can use to emulate
 a PDP computer with up to 512Kb of memory.
 Ben.
 
 Classic computers, yes; classic technology, maybe. Implementing a PDP-xx
 in a state of the art FPGA seems reasonable to discuss for me. Others
 may disagree, I guess, and want to limit the technology options to 74xx
 or Xilinx 3000 series. That is their option.
 As to the question, 5V tolerance combined with 512Kb (64KB) on chip
 memory and 'mid-sized number' of macrocells are more or less mutually
 exclusive options. Toss the 5V tolerance and use external translators
 and lots of options pop up ... Spartan3,6 series, Altera Cyclone 1,2,3,4
 series are all readily available with more than enough internal memory
 and logic cells.
 
I was speaking of on board rather than on chip memory, as well as
5 volt I/O on/off board.
  If you really want 5V tolerance, then start looking at
multi-CPLD
 designs (Xilinx 95xx series, Altera 7000 series) and external SRAM.
 Don
 
Any one care to design a generic classic computer FGA board?
Ben.