On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
  On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Jerome H. Fine wrote:
  >>The 
EDIT.COM file is run in what seems
like a DOS box
 >>under many Windows operating systems and has the same
 >>(probably since it is actually the same identical file that I
 >>am using - at least it says MS-DOS EDITOR V2.0.026)
 >>commands in all systems. 
 THAT is very useful data, since it is now apparent that there are version
 differences. 
MS-DOS EDITOR V2.0.26 tells me that Jerome is talking about Win95 or
newer (I checked on an XP box - it still reports V2.0.026 and a
copyright date of 1995).
 > >While all interesting, I was aking about the
intertwining of "EDIT" and
> >QBASIC, to the extent that EDIT wouldn't run without QBASIC being present.
> >As Liam mentioned, EDIT was piggy-backed on the QBASIC code. 
Yep.  I concur (having manually built many a specialty DOS floppy in
the mid-1990s, when we used to run harddriveless DOS machines on a
Novell network and needed to pack as much as possible on the boot
floppy).
 > I have never used QBASIC, so EDIT was certainly
not piggy-backed on the
> QBASIC code -
> unless I did not realize it was being done.... 
If you weren't using MS-DOS 5.0 to 6.22, then you probably weren't
using 
EDIT.COM chaining to QBASIC in single-file-edit-mode.  If you
were using Win95 or newer, you were probably running EDIT.EXE.
On a suitable platform, try "QBASIC /EDIT" and see if that's familiar.
 > I must be missing something in your explanation.
The particular DOS version and how "DOS" under Win95 is unlike MS-DOS
5 and MS-DOS 6 w/Win3.1.
  I had an experience similar to Liam's, where EDIT
refused to run without
 QBASIC being present. 
As have I, with MS-DOS 5 and MS-DOS 6.
  However, I certainly can neither debate it, nor
explain the difference
 between your experience and the one that Liam and I had, because I do not
 remember which version of MS-DOS (or PC-DOS?)... 
I can't help your memory, but I can say that there's a difference
between "real" MS-DOS and a "DOS Window" in Win95 and later.
-ethan