74hc(or ls)14
Enviado do meu Tele-Movel
On Feb 28, 2017 12:55 PM, "Jim Brain via cctalk" <cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
wrote:
  Analog, which is my nemesis, curses me again.
 I have a cute idea for a cassette port project for the Tandy line of
 computers (the ones with the cassette port).  I have a Coco 3 on the bench,
 so I scoped the output line while doing 'csave "jim"'.  The signal
looks to
 be just under 1V PtP (0-1V on the scope), and rests at about .3V when not
 sending data.
 I have tried 6 different ways to boost the signal to 5V digital, to no
 avail, and so I ask humbly if someone with analog knowledge might be able
 to assist.
 I first tried to boost the signal with a transistor (with variations using
 a N channel FET as well). Arguably, that was foolhardy, and it did not work.
 My second attempt was based on this link that was shared with me:
 
http://labs.rakettitiede.com/12kbps-simple-audio-data-transfer-for-avr/
 The output from the Coco3 does not appear to be "loud" enough to work with
 this circuit.
 So, I finally decided a comparator solution would be required.
 First, I tried a design using a 741 op-amp, which failed miserably, but
 probably would have worked, but I tried to merge the design from the Coco1,
 and replace the LM339 in the Coco 1 design with the 741, and I feel I did
 not merge the designs well :-)
 I then tried using the comparator in an Atmel AVR, and had minimal
 success.  By biasing one input via a variable resistor to around .8V, I was
 able to get a digital stream, but it did not look like the data stream of
 the cassette format.
 I then pried an LM339 out of my Coco1 and replicated the circuit int the
 Coco 1, as noted in the tech manual:
 Color Computer Technical Reference Manual (Tandy).pdf <
 
http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/coco/Documents/Manuals/
 Hardware/Color%20Computer%20Technical%20Reference%
 20Manual%20%28Tandy%29.pdf>
 I was shocked that I had no success with that design at all.  I assumed
 (wrongly, it appears) that the Coco cassette input circuit would read the
 output of it's output circuit.  Beyond the possibility that my components
 are defective or I wired it up wrongly, I can only theorize that Tandy
 assumed that all tape recorders would AGC the output and then feed a 2V PtP
 signal back to the Coco (the Coco 1 circuit looks to bias the comparator at
 1.05V (not sure about the feedback resistor's impact))
 I can fiddle around with the AVR solution, which might work if I can
 smooth out the spikes and bias the comparator right, but it just bothers me
 that the Coco 1 circuit does not work, as I assumed I would at least have
 success by copying a working design.
 Jim
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