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dgy@DakotaCom.Net
11 Jun 2006 11 Jun '06
1:02 a.m.
Tony Duell wrote: [equipment manuals]
...
service manual for a simple thing like a mouse ;o)
Actaully, I don't have a mouse on this PC (probably the only PC in the world not to have one, but...). But for things like mice it's often quicker just to trace out the scheamtic than to do battle trying to get a schemaitc from the manufactuer. I know I included schematics of the appropriate mice when I traced out diagrams for the PERQ AGW3300 and the HP IPC>
Yes, though this is frustrating. It helps if you have some spare/disposable units that can give their lives for the cause! :> But, even then, it can be difficult... I have to sacrifice a couple of telephone sets in order to figure out what's inside them so I can modify them for "(doorway) entry phones". But, I susct I will encounter a fair number of oddball/proprietary components in the process (PBX's are usually poorly documented)
...
I have never (well, not in the last 20 years, anyhow) 'mucked up a PCB' trying to repair it. Yes, you can generally tell where I've been (hand soldering does look different from wave soldering), but I do not lift traces, rip out vias, and all the other things that certain people manage to do.
And if I muck that, (expletive deleted) them, because it is mine, bought with my (expletive deleted) money!!! What do they have to do with that? :oP
Exactly! And I still fail to see how supplying information means I'll do a worse repair. Darn it, I am going to have a go at fixing this <foo> no matter what. If I can get a service manual I'll read it first, if not, I'll have to work it out as I go along...
Manuals don't exist anymore because: - they are expensive to produce - few people are CAPABLE of using them - litigation ("Didn't you INVITE my client to stick his hands inside that 20KW pulse amplifier, Sir?") - product lifecycles are really short - vendors are under the (mistaken?) belief that they have a monopoly on some "great idea"/implementation If you think about each of these, I think you'll have to agree... So, why should a vendor undertake such a task? --don
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