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dgy@DakotaCom.Net
11 Jun 2006 11 Jun '06
3:59 a.m.
Tony Duell wrote:
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Tony Duell wrote: [equipment manuals]
service manual for a simple thing like a mouse ;o)
Actaully, I don't have a mouse on this PC (probably the only PC in the world not to have one, but...). But for things like mice it's often quicker just to trace out the scheamtic than to do battle trying to get a schemaitc from the manufactuer. I know I included schematics of the appropriate mice when I traced out diagrams for the PERQ AGW3300 and the HP IPC>
Yes, though this is frustrating. It helps if you have some spare/disposable units that can give their lives for the cause! :>
Why> Apart from HDAs, I can't think of any classic computer device that
Not EVERYTHING is a "classic computer device" :>
...
can't be dismantled non-destructively. Mind you, desoldering the HP9100B
I note that most of Votrax's products are troubling to dismantle non-destructively (lots of potted "hide me so the user doesn't know the secrets of my design" stuff). Also, any maritime equipment I designed was always conformal coated (several of those being "classic microcomputers" :> )
...
ROM board from the address decoder and sense amplifier boards was a stressful exercise. Since the internal track layout on that board is critical (it's what determines the bit pattern of the ROM), if I'd ripped out a via I'd have ruined the machine. I didn't....
But, even then, it can be difficult... I have to sacrifice a couple of telephone sets in order to figure out what's inside them so I can modify them for
Why? Can't they be taken apart without damage?
It adds a level of stress and risk that I chose not to add. My goal is to get a nice clean PCB that I can scan and then convert to a photoplot. From there, I have tools that will help automate reconstructing a schematic. Since I have LOTS of these phones (far more than I would use in my typical nightmares :> ), it seems smarter to destroy components in the hope of recovering a good (photographable) PCB from the exercise. I'd like *not* to waste the components but wasting/disfiguring the foil patterns (even from scratches with the soldering iron tip) is more important. If this approach works well, I have a great way of doing this in the future! :>
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