but when does someone get the source code for anything, outside of open source warez?
 (curious what open source stuff TD is using...)
--- On Sat, 8/30/08, Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
  From: Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
 Subject: Re: Free Linux and OpenOffice - even if your email address doesn't
 To: cctalk at 
classiccmp.org
 Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 5:11 PM
  > Linux $0, *BSD $0, 
OpenOffice.org $0.  And
you 
 don't have to be a
  > student or teacher.  It's the same price
no 
 matter what TLD your email
   address
is behind.
 
 I would disagree with that - nothing is free. My time 
  is worth something,
  and unless you are volunteering up your free
 time to support, it ain't free. 
 My sanity and stress-level is worth something too. And
 having had
 dealings with the so-called 'support deparetments'
 of several companies
 including M$, I have ocme to the conclusion that it's
 quicker and cheaper
 to support things muself. Although actually, I've found
 the support from
 the authors of free software to be a lot more helpful in
 solving prolems
 (whether caused by a bug in their code or not) than any
 company I've had
 dealings with.
  Second, I work for a multi-billion dollar
company, and 
 there is NO WAY on
  this earth any minutely-responsible IT
 department is going to run ANYTHING unsupported in a 
 production environment,
  especially with SOX and other
 requirements. 
 And there is no way I am going to use anything I can't
 support myself.
 Which means I won't depend on any hardware I don't
 have full schematics
 for, I won't depend on any software I don't have
 the source code for. I
 don;t require it to be 'open', I don't mind if
 the schematics and source
 are not freely copyable and that I have to pay to get, say,
 a technical
 manaual containing said schematics.
 -tony