On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Dave McGuire wrote:
  On 4/12/11 4:00 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote:
   I
preferred a more formal development style. Edit, compile, run,
 lather, rinse, repeat. Lots of different source files. The time
 saved by using QuickC didn't amount to a hill of beans in the overall
 picture.
 I find that the more sophisticated and "helpful"the IDE, the more it
 tends to disturb my thought processes.
 But then, I'm old. 
 As a student, I was on the tail end of the keypunch/batch era. It was
 painful but one good thing it did was instill the notion of doing the
 design and coding correctly up-front, and forcing one to think in detail
 about your program logic before running it. It was an objective to have
 your program compile and then execute correctly the first time it hit
 the compiler.
 These days, that seems not just quaint but a radical notion. 
 
  Agree 100%.  During a programming project, I'll compile hundreds of times
 in a day.  In those days, one might go days or even weeks between compiles.
  This is to say nothing of the fact that (most) people finally figured out
 that too much red tape, paperwork, meetings, bureaucracy, and other
 distractions are counterproductive and don't generally contribute to actually
 getting things done.  Many management types seem to prefer talking about
 doing stuff more than actually doing stuff.
 
Then there's the assinine requirement that you give a fine grained
accounting for your time resulting in the choice - tell them about what
you did, or actually do it.  I can understand that kind of an accounting
 from a conslutant*, but not from a salaried employee.
SOX of course makes  
this particular nightmare even worse, as if such a thing were
possible.
* "Consultants:  If you can't provide a solution, there's money to be made
in prolonging the problem!"
g.
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