21 Sep
2011
21 Sep
'11
5:18 p.m.
I have a VAX that I like to play around with. I don't know VMS very well,
and it's fun to learn new (well ok, maybe VMS is old now) things.
There's an application that I would like to compile, but it depends on
bison. I'm trying to compile bison, but that process seems to depend on MMS.
I'm assuming that MMS works like "make makefile" and you do "mms
whatever.mms" to make the app. MMS doesn't seem to be installed, so I
registered and loaded the license. The SHOW LICENSE command says that the
license is there. Now I need to install the application. I have the Montagar
CD mounted and I can browse it's tree structure, but I can't find the kit
that includes MMS. I thought maybe the C language kit and I tried:
@SYS$UPDATE:VMSINSTAL CC064 DUA2:[CC064.KIT]
...which reinstalled C, but no joy on MMS.
Any suggestions?
21 Sep
21 Sep
5:56 p.m.
There's an application that I would like to compile, but it depends on
bison. I'm trying to compile bison, but that process seems to depend on MMS.
I'm assuming that MMS works like "make makefile" and you do "mms
whatever.mms" to make the app. MMS doesn't seem to be installed, so I
registered and loaded the license. The SHOW LICENSE command says that the
license is there. Now I need to install the application. I have the Montagar
CD mounted and I can browse it's tree structure, but I can't find the kit
that includes MMS. I thought maybe the C language kit and I tried:
@SYS$UPDATE:VMSINSTAL CC064 DUA2:[CC064.KIT]
...which reinstalled C, but no joy on MMS.
Any suggestions?
You are correct to assume that MMS on VMS works like make on unix.
I'm not sure what's on the Montagar CD but it looks like MMS is not there.
Commercial VMS sites once got something called the "consolidated software
distribution" or condist for short, every few months. (I think it is called
something else now.) This consisted of about 12 CDs and various compilers and
items such as MMS would be included in that. I vaguely remember that MMS may
have been bundled with some other programming utilities in something called
DECSet but I could be wrong on that.
If you can find a set of condist CDs suitable for use with your version of VMS,
then that would be a good way to get hold of MMS and various other kits that
the hobbyist license enables you to use.
There is also a freeware MMS equivelant called MMK, written by Hunter Goatley.
If you have the OpenVMS freeware CD set, MMK should be on that. Alternatively,
it should be available on the web. Search either for MMK or for the entire
OpenVMS freeware CD set contents which I think are available on some sites.
Alternatively again, many VMS ports of unix utilities include a simple command
procedure (often called BUILD.COM or MAKE.COM) to compile them for those who
do not have MMS or MMK installed and don't want to install them for whatever
reason. The command procedure would not be as versatile or capable as a
make equivelant but this is often not a problem in a VMS environment where
there tends to be less variability than in the unix world.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
6:45 p.m.
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 8:18 AM, David Coolbear <cool1 at thecoolbears.org> wrote:
There's an application that I would like to compile, but it depends on
bison. I'm trying to compile bison, but that process seems to depend on MMS.
I'm assuming that MMS works like "make makefile" ?and you do "mms
whatever.mms" to make the app. MMS doesn't seem to be installed, so I
registered and loaded the license. The SHOW LICENSE command says that the
license is there. Now I need to install the application. I have the Montagar
CD mounted and I can browse it's tree structure, but I can't find the kit
that includes MMS. I thought maybe the C language kit and I tried:
I have an OpenVMS VAX Software Product Library from June 1998 and the
Master Index AV-PZQAZ-RE lists:
DEC Module Management 3.2 VADAA 3 [DECSET122]
System (MMS) for OpenVMS
VAX Systems
I don't have the Montagar CD mounted at the moment to check its
contents. Does it contain [DECSET122] ? Looks like there is also a
newer version in [DECSET127] in newer distributions.
For future reference
http://h30266.www3.hp.com/masterindex/Consolidations_external.shtml
http://h30266.www3.hp.com/masterindex/splvv.shtml
http://h30266.www3.hp.com/masterindex/final_spl_vmsvax_q111/SPLVVQ111_VADAA…
http://h30266.www3.hp.com/masterindex/final_spl_vmsvax_q111/SPLVVQ111_VADAA…
22 Sep
22 Sep
7:26 a.m.
I just checked the OpenVMS VAX V7.3 and Selected Products / OpenVMS
Hobbyist Kit CD that I have and MMS is on it.
Directory DKA200:[DECSET124.DOCUMENTATION]
DECSET124_COVER.PS;1 DECSET124_COVER.TXT;1
DECSET124_IGUIDE.PS;1 DECSET124_IGUIDE.TXT;1
DECSET124_SPD.PS;1 DECSET124_SPD.TXT;1
Directory DKA200:[DECSET124.KIT]
DECSET124.A;1 DECSET124.B;1 DECSET124.C;1 DECSET124.D;1
DECSET124.E;1 DECSET124.F;1 DECSET124.G;1 DECSET124.H;1
DECSET124.I;1 DECSET124.J;1 DECSET124.K;1
DECSET124_SPD.TXT
___________________________________________________________________
PRODUCT NAME: Compaq DECset Release 12.4 for OpenVMS VAX Systems SPD
27.07.20
DESCRIPTION
Compaq DECset for OpenVMS VAX Systems is an integrated programming tool
set that supports software developers' coding, debugging, testing, and
maintenance activities.
Compaq DECset for OpenVMS VAX Systems contains the following compo-
nents:
o Compaq Language-Sensitive Editor/Source Code Analyzer (LSE/SCA),
Version 4.7, for OpenVMS
VAX Systems
o Compaq Digital Test Manager, Version 4.0, for OpenVMS VAX Systems
o Compaq Performance and Coverage Analyzer (PCA), Version 4.7, for
OpenVMS VAX Systems
o Compaq Code Management System (CMS), Version 4.1, for OpenVMS VAX
Systems
o Compaq Module Management System (MMS), Version 3.4, for OpenVMS VAX
Systems
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