Another follow up. My wife just handed me a pair of Unix Expo Digital Equipment key chains. Don't know if I ought to EBay 'em for quick cash. Maybe a PII or PIII for my new motherboard. The logo d|i|gi|t|a|l in maroon (yeah it's the reworked logo not the good old blue and white). The standard green UNIX license plate and Live Free Or Die. (New Hampshire) The other side a California (The Migration State) plate with the letters Y W8 4 HP. Damned if this wasn't prescient. Why Wait For HP --- cause Palmer, Pfeifer, Capellas and Compaq made a big mess of it. I'm not sure Carly will do any better. My judgement on Lucent/AT&T managers is they aren't much better than Compaq's whiz types. Bill Pechter Ex DEC, Ex-Concurrent, Ex-Alliant, Ex-IBM, recently Ex Lucent, Proabably Ex-Computer Hardware Industry for life Digital Had It Then, Don't you wish you could still buy it NOW! -- Bill Gates is a Persian cat and a monocle away from being a villain in a James Bond movie -- Dennis Miller bpechter@shell.monmouth.com|pechter@pechter.dyndns.org