15 Jul
2006
15 Jul
'06
8:36 a.m.
Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote
I've written the Linux driver for this mouse
and its protocol is not compatible with anything else. So if you want
to use such a mouse on eg. a PeeCee, you either need to write a proper
driver for it (if the operating system doesn't have one), or put a
microcontroller in between for protocol conversion to PS2.
So is there some big cache of these things (other than the $80 e-bay ones)?
everyone seems to assume that people want to use the VSXXX on a PC, not get a mouse
for their DEC.
I guess it's back to using an X-terminal- won't have to get the 15-pin breakout
cable then either.
Idle speculation- I wonder which mouse is closest for conversion
purposes (definitely not HP-HIL, perhaps Sun or old SGI?)
15 Jul
15 Jul
9 a.m.
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Scott Quinn wrote:
Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote
I have some. I probably have the 15 pin breakout cable also if its the DS5XXX
one. Free for shipping.
I have Hockey-puck ball and Hawley types, also VSXXX-GA (Early logitech style)
Peter Wallace
I've written the Linux driver for this mouse
and its protocol is not compatible with anything else. So if you want
to use such a mouse on eg. a PeeCee, you either need to write a proper
driver for it (if the operating system doesn't have one), or put a
microcontroller in between for protocol conversion to PS2.
So is there some big cache of these things (other than the $80 e-bay ones)?
everyone seems to assume that people want to use the VSXXX on a PC, not get a mouse
for their DEC.
I guess it's back to using an X-terminal- won't have to get the 15-pin breakout
cable then either.
Idle speculation- I wonder which mouse is closest for conversion
purposes (definitely not HP-HIL, perhaps Sun or old SGI?)
12:51 p.m.
On Sat, 2006-07-15 09:00:40 -0700, Peter C. Wallace <pcw at mesanet.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Scott Quinn wrote:
The ball mouse is for lamers:-) Show somebody the two rollers, that's
always good for shocking!
MfG, JBG
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"Eine Freie Meinung in einem Freien Kopf | Gegen Zensur | Gegen Krieg _ _ O
f?r einen Freien Staat voll Freier B?rger" | im Internet! | im Irak! O O O
ret = do_actions((curr | FREE_SPEECH) & ~(NEW_COPYRIGHT_LAW | DRM | TCPA));
Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote
I have Hockey-puck ball and Hawley types, also VSXXX-GA (Early logitech
style) I've written the Linux driver for this mouse
and its protocol is not compatible with anything else. So if you want
to use such a mouse on eg. a PeeCee, you either need to write a proper
driver for it (if the operating system doesn't have one), or put a
microcontroller in between for protocol conversion to PS2.
So is there some big cache of these things (other than the $80 e-bay ones)?
6:13 p.m.
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
On Sat, 2006-07-15 09:00:40 -0700, Peter C. Wallace
<pcw at mesanet.com> wrote:
Yes, they have to be the just about the simplest mechanical mouse, but they
are fussy about what they run on.
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Scott Quinn wrote:
The ball mouse is for lamers:-) Show somebody the two rollers, that's
always good for shocking! Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote
I have Hockey-puck ball and Hawley types, also VSXXX-GA (Early logitech
style) I've written the Linux driver for this mouse
and its protocol is not compatible with anything else. So if you want
to use such a mouse on eg. a PeeCee, you either need to write a proper
driver for it (if the operating system doesn't have one), or put a
microcontroller in between for protocol conversion to PS2.
So is there some big cache of these things (other than the $80 e-bay ones)?
MfG, JBG
--
Jan-Benedict Glaw jbglaw at lug-owl.de . +49-172-7608481 _ O _
"Eine Freie Meinung in einem Freien Kopf | Gegen Zensur | Gegen Krieg _ _ O
f??r einen Freien Staat voll Freier B??rger" | im Internet! | im Irak! O O O
ret = do_actions((curr | FREE_SPEECH) & ~(NEW_COPYRIGHT_LAW | DRM | TCPA));
Peter Wallace
Mesa Electronics
16 Jul
16 Jul
2:29 a.m.
On Sat, 2006-07-15 18:13:17 -0700, Peter C. Wallace <pcw at mesanet.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
Uh? I've had no problem with my mice regarding this. Always using them
directly on my desk, no specific mouse pad or anything...
MfG, JBG
--
Jan-Benedict Glaw jbglaw at lug-owl.de . +49-172-7608481 _ O _
"Eine Freie Meinung in einem Freien Kopf | Gegen Zensur | Gegen Krieg _ _ O
f??r einen Freien Staat voll Freier B??rger" | im Internet! | im Irak! O O O
ret = do_actions((curr | FREE_SPEECH) & ~(NEW_COPYRIGHT_LAW | DRM | TCPA));
> On Sat, 2006-07-15 09:00:40 -0700, Peter C.
Wallace <pcw at mesanet.com>
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Scott Quinn wrote:
> > > Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote
> > > > I've written the Linux driver for this mouse
> > > > and its protocol is not compatible with anything else. So if you want
> > > > to use such a mouse on eg. a PeeCee, you either need to write a
proper
> > > > driver for it (if the operating system doesn't have one), or put
a
> > > > microcontroller in between for protocol conversion to PS2.
> > >
> > > So is there some big cache of these things (other than the $80 e-bay
> > > ones)?
> >
> > I have Hockey-puck ball and Hawley types, also VSXXX-GA (Early logitech
> > style)
>
> The ball mouse is for lamers:-) Show somebody the two rollers, that's
> always good for shocking!
Yes, they have to be the just about the simplest mechanical mouse, but they
are fussy about what they run on.
7:23 a.m.
On Sun, 16 Jul 2006, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
On Sat, 2006-07-15 18:13:17 -0700, Peter C. Wallace
<pcw at mesanet.com> wrote:
My test is to draw a diagonal line. The balled mice work fine, the Hawley
mouse does a lousy job. Could just be something about my desk that the
Hawley mouse doen't like...
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
Uh? I've had no problem with my mice regarding this. Always using them
directly on my desk, no specific mouse pad or anything... > On Sat, 2006-07-15 09:00:40 -0700, Peter C.
Wallace <pcw at mesanet.com>
> wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Scott Quinn wrote:
>>> Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote
>>>> I've written the Linux driver for this mouse
>>>> and its protocol is not compatible with anything else. So if you want
>>>> to use such a mouse on eg. a PeeCee, you either need to write a proper
>>>> driver for it (if the operating system doesn't have one), or put a
>>>> microcontroller in between for protocol conversion to PS2.
>>>
>>> So is there some big cache of these things (other than the $80 e-bay
>>> ones)?
>>
>> I have Hockey-puck ball and Hawley types, also VSXXX-GA (Early logitech
>> style)
>
> The ball mouse is for lamers:-) Show somebody the two rollers, that's
> always good for shocking!
Yes, they have to be the just about the simplest mechanical mouse, but they
are fussy about what they run on.
MfG, JBG
--
Jan-Benedict Glaw jbglaw at lug-owl.de . +49-172-7608481 _ O _
"Eine Freie Meinung in einem Freien Kopf | Gegen Zensur | Gegen Krieg _ _ O
f????r einen Freien Staat voll Freier B????rger" | im Internet! | im Irak! O O
O
ret = do_actions((curr | FREE_SPEECH) & ~(NEW_COPYRIGHT_LAW | DRM | TCPA));
Peter Wallace
Mesa Electronics
15 Jul
15 Jul
12:49 p.m.
On Sat, 2006-07-15 10:36:41 -0500, Scott Quinn <compoobah at valleyimplants.com>
wrote:
Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote
Dunno. I've got a number of these, basically always got one when I got
a VAX for free somewhere.
I've written the Linux driver for this mouse
and its protocol is not compatible with anything else. So if you want
to use such a mouse on eg. a PeeCee, you either need to write a proper
driver for it (if the operating system doesn't have one), or put a
microcontroller in between for protocol conversion to PS2.
So is there some big cache of these things (other than the $80 e-bay ones)? everyone seems to assume that people want to use the
VSXXX on a PC, not get a mouse
for their DEC.
Well, this mouse, despite missing a scroll wheel, fits _very_ well in
my hand and I love to use it.
Idle speculation- I wonder which mouse is closest for
conversion
purposes (definitely not HP-HIL, perhaps Sun or old SGI?)
I guess any simple serial mouse is equally "close" to the VSXXX-AA.
MfG, JBG
--
Jan-Benedict Glaw jbglaw at lug-owl.de . +49-172-7608481 _ O _
"Eine Freie Meinung in einem Freien Kopf | Gegen Zensur | Gegen Krieg _ _ O
f?r einen Freien Staat voll Freier B?rger" | im Internet! | im Irak! O O O
ret = do_actions((curr | FREE_SPEECH) & ~(NEW_COPYRIGHT_LAW | DRM | TCPA));
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