organizing a trip to Cuba
pbirkel at gmail.com
Wed Jun 24 02:35:17 CDT 2015
I just love this translation:
"*But me, naturally, anybody especially didn't ask.*"
Been there; still am ...
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:45 AM, Holm Tiffe <holm at freibergnet.de> wrote:
> Johnny Billquist wrote:
> > On 2015-06-24 02:06, Mark J. Blair wrote:
> > >
> > >>On Jun 23, 2015, at 09:32 , Holm Tiffe <holm at freibergnet.de> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>1)
> > >>Yes they copied the PDP11 and the VAX.... but, They made an VAX Chip
> > >>that's
> > >>compatible to the VAX730...and we all know that the VAX730 ist not an
> > >>chip solution as the russian chip is.
> > >
> > >Ooh! Is there any chance I could get my hands on one of those
> > >VAX730 "clone" machines? That sounds quite cool.
> > Well, unless I'm mistaken, when the Russian VAX-11/730 on a chip came,
> > DEC had already produced the uVAX II, which is also just a chip, but
> > much faster than an 11/730, so it's not exactly as if the Russians were
> > outperforming what DEC was doing... Exactly when did this Russian chip
> > come out, by the way? Curious on exactly how far DEC had come at the
> > time of that chip. :-)
> > Johnny
> > --
> That wasn't the question at all Johnny.
> I wanted to make clear that not all clones are clones.
> I have an Elektronika 60 which is something like an 11/03 clone
> but it isn't a clone. It has a Q-BUS with connecteors like DECs
> original but with metric pin raster. Boards are bigger and the used
> chips and the schematics are totally different in most cases.S
> My memory confused the VAX730 with the VAX750...
> The machine is a development of it's own conforming some of the DEC Specs
> so that the original Software can run on that thing (E60).
> (The console SLU is a quad size board build from only TTL)
> The same happened with that VAX730 Chip, it was developed from only 10
> people following the DEC reference manual.
> http://www.online-translator.com gives halfways readable results from
> the translation of the web frame from russian to english.
> ..for PDP11 like processors:
> I have a file with the internal Schematics (!) of the K1801VM2 processor,
> a PDP11 running w/o MMU at 10Mhz. There is also a 1801VM3 with internal
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