Folks,
As I try to track down why various subscribers are getting booted from
the list in the last couple of days, I'm noticing that a number of you
are subscribed from an address that forwards elsewhere.
This works poorly.
TL;DR follows, but basically this is brought to you by the fact that
modern email sucks almost as much because of the anti-spam processes as
because of the spam itself. In the modern world, forwarding is pretty
much dead on arrival. Avoid it where possible. I'll be over here
swearing right along with you.
TL;DR: to be able to deliver any email at all these days, we have to
comply with a couple of schemes designed to make it harder to forge mail
-- DKIM and SPF. The combined effect of making the necessary
declarations in the DNS entries for classiccmp.org is that if you try to
forward mail, you look like you're _impersonating_ classiccmp.org. Many
large providers (google, yahoo, etc.) refuse such mail.
The same anti-spam mechanisms also make it difficult to run a proper RFC
compliant mailing list, because then classiccmp.org would be sending
mail with _your_ From: address, making classiccmp.org look like an
impersonator. Still $w34ring.
Cheers,
De
Glad the photos help. I hope the average general public wasn't too
disappointed or discouraged by the crowd on Saturday - but I tried to think
of the positive side, of there still being interest in vintage computing at
all. A "web cam" preview of the consignment might have helped that line
- some were interested in a specific thing, then to wait 45min in line to
find it's already gone. But I guess that's just part of the experience.
For exhibits, the interior noise/acustics got loud and made hard to engage
and ask questions (since you couldn't even hear them across the table).
I also felt a little guilty of intentionally getting there early to get a
close parking spot. I mean, I don't think there is anything really wrong
with that - but if I know I'm going to be there all day, I wouldn't mind
parking further away and taking a shuttle bus. In my defense, I knew I'd
be getting things from consignment and wanted to drop them back to the car
(I just got some of the laptops).
Sellam, thanks for the note about the geese!! Honkers, yes, that's very
appropriate! But why Honking at 3am!? haha, maybe I don't want to know!?
I'm on travel again for the rest of this week, so kind of rushed to get
notes up today before heading back to the airport.
-Steve
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 1:04 PM Brian L. Stuart <blstuart(a)bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> Thank you very much for posting these pictures. I ended up having to
> cancel my plans at the last minute due to covid. Yeah, I had succeeded
> in avoiding it for 3 years, but it finally caught up to me.
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> BLS
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> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 05:39:04 PM UTC, Steve Lewis via cctalk <
> cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
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> Videos are nice, but I still like to make a kind of "scrap book" of events
> I've been to. Link is below.
>
> Also, most exhibitors were occupied interacting with the public and maybe
> didn't get a chance to see what else was presented at this VCF. Or, maybe
> they didn't get to see what all else the museum and local area had to
> present - so seeing photos might give them ideas of things to check out
> next time.
>
> Or, in general, for anyone not able to attend, here are some photos also.
>
> https://voidstar.blog/vcf-east-2023/
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> Feel free to use/share, no permission needed.
>
Sorry, I forgot to post the location. I'm in Kent, Washington. USA. disregard the AT&T customer service. Have E-mails in to them. not sure what going on there, but its at&tso anything is possible.
Jerry253-569-6041g-wright(a)att.net
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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 21:41:57 +0000 (UTC)
From: AT&T Customer Service <g-wright(a)att.net>
Subject: [cctalk] more shop clearing
To: "cctalk(a)classiccmp.org" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
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I currently have a few Heavy items to move.
1 Data General 6030 Disk drive1 Data General 6100 Disk Drive1 HP 9000 K210 Server with 1 storage enclosure. has drives and is currently working1 CDC 9760 ?? no label on it, looks like 60-62 version1 HP 7970E 9 track This is in its own console. HPIB interface.1 HP 1000 "F" series computer1 HP 2753a Paper tape punch (Tally)
1 HP 7970B 9 Track2 Data General model 10 desk top computers1 Dec PDP 11/44 with 2 RA80 drives in a short Rack. Has not been turned on a a few years.
Missing the top cover.
Everything is in good looking condition, but only the HP 9000 and 7970e 9 track have been running lately.Most of these are over 150 lbs each except the DG 10s and paper punch. So local pickup
- Jerryg-wright(a)att.net
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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 22:02:15 +0000
From: John Floren <john(a)jfloren.net>
Subject: [cctalk] Re: more shop clearing
To: g-wright(a)att.net, cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
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Local to where?
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On Apr 15, 2023, 2:41 PM, AT&T Customer Service via cctalk wrote:
> I currently have a few Heavy items to move. 1 Data General 6030 Disk drive1 Data General 6100 Disk Drive1 HP 9000 K210 Server with 1 storage enclosure. has drives and is currently working1 CDC 9760 ?? no label on it, looks like 60-62 version1 HP 7970E 9 track This is in its own console. HPIB interface.1 HP 1000 "F" series computer1 HP 2753a Paper tape punch (Tally) 1 HP 7970B 9 Track2 Data General model 10 desk top computers1 Dec PDP 11/44 with 2 RA80 drives in a short Rack. Has not been turned on a a few years. Missing the top cover. Everything is in good looking condition, but only the HP 9000 and 7970e 9 track have been running lately.Most of these are over 150 lbs each except the DG 10s and paper punch. So local pickup - Jerryg-wright(a)att.net
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> On Apr 17, 2023, at 11:00, cctalk-request(a)classiccmp.org wrote:
> For the HP, I think it's a fair asking price because of all the cables,
> manuals, and accessories that he's got -- he's got all the SerialIO
> stuff, so it would be a fun project (to me) to try to write a terminal
> program and get that calculator on the internet :)
The price seems high to me also, but if someone is willing to pay for it. The tape drive will almost certainly need work.
That said, I did write a terminal program for a 9825T in college, but it was only usable because I had a 9871A printer on which to display the output. It was a pain to use, but better than waiting for a terminal in the university's computer center.
Videos are nice, but I still like to make a kind of "scrap book" of events
I've been to. Link is below.
Also, most exhibitors were occupied interacting with the public and maybe
didn't get a chance to see what else was presented at this VCF. Or, maybe
they didn't get to see what all else the museum and local area had to
present - so seeing photos might give them ideas of things to check out
next time.
Or, in general, for anyone not able to attend, here are some photos also.
https://voidstar.blog/vcf-east-2023/
Feel free to use/share, no permission needed.
I currently have a few Heavy items to move.
1 Data General 6030 Disk drive1 Data General 6100 Disk Drive1 HP 9000 K210 Server with 1 storage enclosure. has drives and is currently working1 CDC 9760 ?? no label on it, looks like 60-62 version1 HP 7970E 9 track This is in its own console. HPIB interface.1 HP 1000 "F" series computer1 HP 2753a Paper tape punch (Tally)
1 HP 7970B 9 Track2 Data General model 10 desk top computers1 Dec PDP 11/44 with 2 RA80 drives in a short Rack. Has not been turned on a a few years.
Missing the top cover.
Everything is in good looking condition, but only the HP 9000 and 7970e 9 track have been running lately.Most of these are over 150 lbs each except the DG 10s and paper punch. So local pickup
- Jerryg-wright(a)att.net
I have a sgi tezro for sale. My last sgi machine, i used to have crimson
and onyx2 desksides.
The front plastic is a little torn. It has a dallas battery problem. I
recall getting it to boot by manually typing in the boot info, but it may
require soldering to fix the battery.
Open to offers. My last sgi machine, i think it's time for me to let it go.
As I clean up more, I might be able to find the console cable and see if it
still boots, but I'm unsure what its operating condition is as it sits.
Located in FL.
--Devin D.
45 years ago this month Intel revealed the 8086 processor which became x86
technology that formed the backbone of PC technology. The 8-bit era came to
an end about 7 years later. For classic computing a new era began.
Happy computing.
Murray 🙂
This place may be of interest. Most of the stuff they have for sale probably isn't of much interest here, but there are a few gems. The link takes you to one, which is how I found it.
https://www.bryanipad.shop/product/microlog-corporation-atr-6800-vintage-ra…
Not affiliated in any way. Just thought it might be of interest.
Will
On April 3, 1973 the first wireless phone call was made and Moore’s Law has
now led to the smart-phone being ubiquitous to our lives: Computer
technology and cell phone technology marching hand-in-hand.
Happy computing and talking about it!
Murray 🙂
