All,
I've been looking for a Kinetics or Shiva FastPath 4 or 5 for a while, without luck. Don't know why I didn't think to ask on the various lists! If anyone has one they'd like to part with, let me know off-list.
Thanks,
Jonathan
Hello all,
Is there anyone out there that would be prepared to tackle restoring
a couple of IBM 010 card punches functionally and cosmetically?
This is a paying job!
These are the small tabletop units.
One is manual: https://flic.kr/p/2nVAJeg
The other is motorised: https://flic.kr/p/2nVB8Pa
They are apparently complete but will need cleaning, repainting and
adjusting, and whatever you can do with the key-tops.
The manual one was used by the current owner in 1962 so has some
sentimental value!
They are in the USA but we can get them to you wherever you are.
If you know of anyone who might be interested then feel free to
forward this email.
--
Lawrence Wilkinson lawrence(a)ljw.me.uk
The IBM 360/30 page http://www.ljw.me.uk/ibm360
Let me add that Howard Sturgis' dissertation "Post-mortem for a
Time-sharing System" is great reading. It's unusual that failures are
documented but this case study is worthy.
On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 1:00 PM <cctalk-request(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Send cctalk mailing list submissions to
> cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or
> body 'help' to
> cctalk-request(a)classiccmp.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> cctalk-owner(a)classiccmp.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of cctalk digest..."Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: CAL TSS information and source listings (paul(a)mcjones.org)
> 2. ISO someone to refurbish two IBM 010 card punches (LJW cctech)
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: paul(a)mcjones.org
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 16:13:06 -0000
> Subject: [cctalk] Re: CAL TSS information and source listings
> Lars Brinkhoff wrote:
> > Paul McJones posted this recently:
> > https://mcjones.org/CalTSS/
> >
> > There aren't a lot of machine readable media, but many listings:
> > https://mcjones.org/CalTSS/source/
>
> I hesitated to post here -- was the CDC 6400 a classic computer? :-) --
> but Lars broke the ice. The system ran on a 6400 with Extended Core Storage
> and Central Exchange Jump (most of the operating system ran on the CPU,
> counter to normal CDC 6000 practice). The project took place at UC Berkeley
> between 1968 and 1971 (although hardware acquisition began in 1966). What
> the university really wanted was simple interactive service (editing,
> BASIC, remote job submission, etc.) in conjunction with batch jobs running
> on SCOPE on the main, larger 6400, but what they got was a state-of-the-art
> research system offering capability-based protection, multiple protection
> domains per process, and more. Unfortunately, it couldn't support enough
> concurrent users to be economical.
>
> The technical ideas are well-described here:
>
> Butler W. Lampson and Howard E. Sturgis. Reflections on an operating
> system design. Communications of the ACM, 19(5):251-265, January 1976.
> https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/360051.360074 (open access)
>
> The project history is described here:
>
> Paul McJones and Dave Redell. History of the CAL Timesharing System.
> Submitted to: IEEE Annals of the History of Computing.
> https://www.mcjones.org/CalTSS/paper/cal_tss_history.pdf
>
> Through heroic effort, Terry Heidelberg has managed to create an emulation
> environment and boot the system and run some programs, but it's not ready
> for prime time!
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: LJW cctech <ljw-cctech(a)ljw.me.uk>
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 18:05:58 +0200
> Subject: [cctalk] ISO someone to refurbish two IBM 010 card punches
> Hello all,
>
> Is there anyone out there that would be prepared to tackle restoring
> a couple of IBM 010 card punches functionally and cosmetically?
>
> This is a paying job!
>
> These are the small tabletop units.
> One is manual: https://flic.kr/p/2nVAJeg
> The other is motorised: https://flic.kr/p/2nVB8Pa
>
> They are apparently complete but will need cleaning, repainting and
> adjusting, and whatever you can do with the key-tops.
>
> The manual one was used by the current owner in 1962 so has some
> sentimental value!
>
> They are in the USA but we can get them to you wherever you are.
>
> If you know of anyone who might be interested then feel free to
> forward this email.
>
> --
> Lawrence Wilkinson lawrence(a)ljw.me.uk
> The IBM 360/30 page http://www.ljw.me.uk/ibm360
>
Wanted to pass along that PALM has been added as a target to the Macro
Assembler AS. This means writing some assembly stuff for the old IBM
5100/5110/5120 systems.
Assembler available here:
http://john.ccac.rwth-aachen.de:8000/as/
So no one has to re-type it, the "bounce" sample is located here:
https://github.com/voidstar78/5110VEMU/blob/main/bin/sample1_palm.asm
Norbert has the online IBM5110 emulator, but it doesn't have a way to
"script inputs". Not sure if he's in the mood to crack that open again,
but it would be a nice feature to add (a kind of "File Open" and just
script the content of the file like typing on its emulated keyboard)..
Alternative way to test some compiled assembly is to script it into the
5110VEMU located here:
https://github.com/voidstar78/5110VEMU/tree/main/bin
(Wintel builds, uses pdcurses which might not be too hard to port to other
systems)
Or if have a physical system willing to power up, you can use a serial port
as a proxy to the keyboard:
https://github.com/voidstar78/KBD5110/tree/main/CODE
Screen is port mapped at 0x0200, so drawing stuff is easy. I'll work on an
example to poll keyboard inputs - then we're in business for some
interactive software content :D (well, will need some RNG solution next)
Cheers!
Data General public archive Update 2 has been uploaded to the web site,
and includes the following additions:
Software added:
- MRDOS and TRDO
- AOS IDEA
- AOS INFOS II
- RTOS Datagen
- RTOS
- AOS CEO
- AOS RPG II
- diagnostic software, paper tape
Documentation/manuals added for:
- computer reference manuals
- RTOS Datagen
- RTOS
- DOS
- SOS
- DOS [Diskette]
- DG/RDOS
- MP/OS
- MP/AOS
- AOS IDEA
- AOS INFOS II
- AOS CEO
- AOS RPG II
--
Bruce Ray
Wild Hare Computer Systems, Inc.
Denver, Colorado USA
bkr(a)WildHareComputers.com
...preserving the Data General legacy: www.NovasAreForever.org
Did anyone else just get the semi-automated-looking email from the Living Computer Museum reminding that the online collection is still online and how to access it? It was a bit of a shock to me - I was aware that the online collection was still accessible, but it just seems ‘strange’ to get an email from them out of the blue. Oh how I wished it was some good news.
Here’s hoping that one day Vulcan realize what they have.
Ian
Who presently has the largest predominantly "vintage computing" collections
in 2022? I sometimes wonder what the cutoff definition is for "very large
collection" ... 1000 individual computers? Or do you judge by square feet
filled? I have seen entire houses full, 5000sq ft warehouses, entire
homes.stuffed to the brim. But there is a price to pay. Free stuff has a
storage cost until it ain't so free anymore. It's hard to maintain a large
collection and prevent its deterioration.
Reminds me of the consolidation of planetary debris into the solar system.
By 2022 there has been a lot of consolidation. Some of us started
accumulating systems in the 1990s or even before, and are still at it.
From.the looks.of what was being sold at vcfmw we're a ways off from
running out of stuff.
Bill
Does anyone know how the 1970/1971 original Datapoint 2200 was programmed?
It had tapes containing terminal programs to access different types of
systems. And the instruction set was said to be similar what became the
8008. But how were these terminal programs created and how were the tapes
written? Were they under emulators on larger systems, like a PDP-10?
Were there any tapes that had something like a machine code editor and
tape-write routines? I assume no kind of ROM was built into the system
(unless it had a built in machine code editor, and routines to write that
content to a tape?) Was a version of BASIC ever built for the 8008 that
ran on a Datapoint 2200 or similar system?
-Steve
