On 2025-08-28 11:52 a.m., Shoppa, Tim via cctalk wrote: But will a APPLE II or PDP 11 last another 40 or 50 years? Some how the PDP 8 is as strong as ever. I suspect most of the vintage equipment up to the 1920's could be rebuilt with a good machine shop. Vintage tubes are a bit more tricky. Thinking of the little big Iron, model steam devices is a rather nice hobby if you don't live in a apartment. Ben.

And for those of us in the Northeast: https://newsm.org/ I had the pleasure of visiting that one with my ham radio club Frank -----Original Message----- From: Shoppa, Tim via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2025 1:53 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Cc: Shoppa, Tim <tshoppa(a)wmata.com> Subject: [cctalk] Re: Tesla's Forgotten Founder Speaks Out - Exclusive w/ Martin Eberhard Frank wrote: We're getting off topic but I want to interject that if you want to see operating steam tractors, stationary steam engines, and lots more, get to Mt Pleasant Iowa RIGHT NOW for the annual Old Thresher's Reunion which starts TODAY. I note that when the Old Thresher's Reunion first started in 1950, the steam tractors being run there were only 40-50 years old, not too dissimilar to how an Apple II or PDP-11 is today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs4L2nSqCL4 https://www.oldthreshers.org/other-events/steam-school/ Tim N3QE