8 Dec
2025
8 Dec
'25
3:40 p.m.
Back in the day I did a lot of playing around with the Radio
Shack versions of Tiny Pascal. (Back in the days when you
loaded them from tape cause we didn't have disks yet!)
I still like to mess with Tiny Pascal on other machines, too.
Now the bad news (at least for me). While I have my Model I
version tape I cannot find the tape for the Model III. Does
anyone have a copy of the tape or an image of the tape usable
on an emulator (pretty sure I can put that back onto a tape.)
I would really like to get back to trying some things with it.
bill
8 Dec
8 Dec
4:08 p.m.
I can take a look, model III? does it have to be a tape or can you use
disk, because it's for a model III?
Bill
On Mon, Dec 8, 2025 at 4:41 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Back in the day I did a lot of playing around with the Radio
Shack versions of Tiny Pascal. (Back in the days when you
loaded them from tape cause we didn't have disks yet!)
I still like to mess with Tiny Pascal on other machines, too.
Now the bad news (at least for me). While I have my Model I
version tape I cannot find the tape for the Model III. Does
anyone have a copy of the tape or an image of the tape usable
on an emulator (pretty sure I can put that back onto a tape.)
I would really like to get back to trying some things with it.
bill
4:17 p.m.
On 12/8/2025 5:08 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
There was no disk version for either. The program resided in
low memory where TRS-DOS later occupied. I wanted to dis-assemble
it and try moving it so that disk might be added but the code was
very convoluted and resisted all attempts at disassembly. (although
I have reached the age where I might be dumb enough to try it again. :-)
There was an article in 80 Micro about moving Tiny Pascal to disk
but it really didn't make it disk capable. I just let you load
it from a disk and then relocated itself back where it belonged.
And that was for the Model I version only.
bill
I can take a look, model III? does it have to be a
tape or can you use
disk, because it's for a model III?
My first Model III was 48K diskless.
6:24 p.m.
I checked all Model tapes and I do not have Tiny Pascal. Unless it's on a
CLOAD monthly tape, which I did not check all of those. If it appeared on
one of the CLOAD monthly tapes, please let me know the month/year to help
me narrow the search. I spent time last year gathering up all TRS 80 tapes
to keep organized. I have an entire storage tub full of tapes in tape
carriers, original programs, and the CLOAD's.
Bill
On Mon, Dec 8, 2025 at 5:08 PM Bill Degnan <billdegnan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I can take a look, model III? does it have to be a
tape or can you use
disk, because it's for a model III?
Bill
On Mon, Dec 8, 2025 at 4:41 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Back in the day I did a lot of playing around with the Radio
Shack versions of Tiny Pascal. (Back in the days when you
loaded them from tape cause we didn't have disks yet!)
I still like to mess with Tiny Pascal on other machines, too.
Now the bad news (at least for me). While I have my Model I
version tape I cannot find the tape for the Model III. Does
anyone have a copy of the tape or an image of the tape usable
on an emulator (pretty sure I can put that back onto a tape.)
I would really like to get back to trying some things with it.
bill
4:19 p.m.
On 12/08/2025 4:40 PM EST Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Back in the day I did a lot of playing around with the Radio
Shack versions of Tiny Pascal. (Back in the days when you
loaded them from tape cause we didn't have disks yet!)
I still like to mess with Tiny Pascal on other machines, too.
Now the bad news (at least for me). While I have my Model I
version tape I cannot find the tape for the Model III. Does
anyone have a copy of the tape or an image of the tape usable
on an emulator (pretty sure I can put that back onto a tape.)
I would really like to get back to trying some things with it.
bill
There appears to be a version with disk images here, but it doesn't say Model I or
III, it just says version 1.0. It is way down the list, entries 14122 to 14124.
https://willus.com/trs80/
Will
4:34 p.m.
It will take a little while to search through dozens of model I tapes but I
very well may have it and I will check later tonight. I know I have a
version of pascal but not sure about tiny pascal on tape, maybe on stringy
floppy
Bill
On Mon, Dec 8, 2025 at 5:24 PM Will Cooke via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
On 12/08/2025 4:40 PM EST Bill Gunshannon via
cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Back in the day I did a lot of playing around with the Radio
Shack versions of Tiny Pascal. (Back in the days when you
loaded them from tape cause we didn't have disks yet!)
I still like to mess with Tiny Pascal on other machines, too.
Now the bad news (at least for me). While I have my Model I
version tape I cannot find the tape for the Model III. Does
anyone have a copy of the tape or an image of the tape usable
on an emulator (pretty sure I can put that back onto a tape.)
I would really like to get back to trying some things with it.
bill
There appears to be a version with disk images here, but it doesn't say
Model I or III, it just says version 1.0. It is way down the list, entries
14122 to 14124. https://willus.com/trs80/
Will
5:21 p.m.
On 2025-12-08 3:34 p.m., Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
It will take a little while to search through dozens
of model I tapes but I
very well may have it and I will check later tonight. I know I have a
version of pascal but not sure about tiny pascal on tape, maybe on stringy
floppy
Bill
Did the stringy floppy ever work well?
Ben.
6 p.m.
Did the stringy floppy ever work well?
Yes, if by well you mean only ate tapes some of the time. I can see why TI gave
up on it for the CC-40, even though the official reason was an issue with the I/O.
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10 Dec
10 Dec
12:43 p.m.
Congratulations on your appointment, by the way.
Daniel
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2025, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote:
Did the stringy floppy ever work well?
Yes, if by well you mean only ate tapes some of the time. I can see why TI gave
up on it for the CC-40, even though the official reason was an issue with the I/O.
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11 Dec
11 Dec
12:14 p.m.
Tiny Pascal on the TRS-80 was very educational for me.
I was like a freshman at Georgia Tech.
I disassembled the bytecode interpreter, and taught myself virtual machines.
Then a friend with more RAM in his TRS-80 loaded the Compiler Source Code
(from the back of the cassette)
and printed it for me. I studied that and taught myself how to write
compilers!
I hope you get this running!
-- strick
8 Dec
8 Dec
6:32 p.m.
I didn't bother to check stringy floppies. It worked great until the great
tape god, Rewindus, decided all stringy tape drive belts and all tapes
should turn to dust in one fateful day in 2007. I haven't seen a
working stringy tape in a long time. If I was to try today, I'd go through
10 before I read one stringy floppy successfully, and it would probably
only survive the one read.
Bill
On Mon, Dec 8, 2025 at 6:21 PM ben via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 2025-12-08 3:34 p.m., Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
It will take a little while to search through
dozens of model I tapes
but I
very well may have it and I will check later
tonight. I know I have a
version of pascal but not sure about tiny pascal on tape, maybe on
stringy
floppy
Bill
Did the stringy floppy ever work well?
Ben.
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