On Jan 6, 18:33, Barry A. Watzman wrote:
> Subject: Message formats
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I am NOT sending in HTML format, but it is MIME encoded. Sorry, but I use
my E-Mail client (Windows messaging) for more than just this discussion
group, and I need the ability to send and receive formatted text for some
of them, including my employer. I'm not going to change formats on a
message-by-message basis just to eliminate the equals signs at the ends of
the lines.
No, it's not just MIME-encoded. We're not complaining about equals signs
at the ends of lines (which, incidentally, arise because Microsoft don't
understand MIME). Apart from this message, all the ones I've seen from you
have been encoded as "multipart/alternative". The few I've bothered to
read (because it IS a bother) have contained a copy in some other format as
well as the plain text.
And as you can see from the way my mailer has quoted your message, the
lines aren't split except at paragraph breaks. You need to get a mailer
that works :-)
"Windows messaging"? Do you mean Microsoft Mail? Or something like
Outlook? I can assure you that it is possible to configure Microsoft
mailers to send formatted HTML (which IMHO should not be allowed at all) or
RTF in such a way that normal mailers simply see a plain text plus an
attachment.
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Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
At 01:37 PM 1/1/99 +1100, you wrote:
>somewhere, the words "that does not compute" in a silly monotonic
>computer-like voice. Annoyed the hell out of me! Was it just me this
Remember how hilarious it was back then when Scotty picked up the mouse and
said "com-PUT-er..."?
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Marvin wrote:
> Doug Yowza wrote:
> >
> > So, now we know how much an unassembled Altair kit will go for, and we
> > know that most people can't tell the difference between an assembled kit
> > and an unassembled one.
>
> Or partially assembled one! I saw the photos and was kind of
> wondering what
> the story is. Perhaps I missed something in my quick glance, but I didn't
> see any boards mentioned, and just some photos of what looked like an
> assembled box, and a bunch of parts.
I kind of enjoyed the "I've never powered it up" disclaimer at the bottom.
Should be sort of obvious for an unassembled kit?
I notice from the pictures of the Altair 8800 kit
on eBay that the front panel and power supply
have been wired and assembled.
The kit I found
also has the front panel and power supply
wired and assembled.
QUESTION - to any of the folks out there who
put these kits together originally...
Is this the way you received them from MITS?
With the front panel and/or the power supply
pre-wired and assembled?
Thanks,
Bob Wood
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>QUESTION - to any of the folks out there who
>put these kits together originally...
>Is this the way you received them from MITS?
>With the front panel and/or the power supply
>pre-wired and assembled?
No. At least not mine on the 'kit a month' plan.
The way MITS was it wouldn't suprise me if
they did ship out some partially built to fill
demand for kit orders, but it wasn't in my case.
More trivia: The last 'kit-a-month' installment
of $60 got you the CPU chip. By that time generic
8080's were less than that so I just bought an
NEC chip elsewhere to save a few $$.
Chuck
cswiger(a)widomaker.com
Mark Metzler wrote:
>I knew you should have held onto all those Altairs longer,
>Bob!
Actually I have managed to hold on to more than I
have sold, Mark. I had decided to stop listing my
Altair stuff on eBay for now because there seemed to be a glut
of Altair items going on there. But this is the first
whole original 8800 that has been listed since earlier
last year when the two were on simultaneously. It will
be interesting to see if this selling
price causes more to be listed.
Bob
>
>At 10:29 PM 1/6/99 PST, you wrote:
>>$6710.00 Wow!
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>>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5282
>2778
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I know the Altair was historically significant, and it's very collectible,
but give me a break! I paid less than that for my car.
I'm hoping the fix was somehow in on this auction, in an attempt to drive
collectible prices up - otherwise, I'll have to give up all hope of ever
owning any pre-1980 computers that I don't already have.
If this is truly where the market is going, most people on this list might
be able to retire on the Riviera after all! :v)
Mark.
At 10:29 PM 1/6/99 PST, you wrote:
>$6710.00 Wow!
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=52822778
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I have decided it is time to clean out some of the computer stuff.
Following is a list of computers and components that are available.
Basically, except for the last group of DEC uVax cards & where noted
elsewhere, everything is free to those who come and pick up the items.
I basically don't want to get involved with the shipping of any large
items, such as the CPU boxes or monitors. If you just have to have
some component that I can ship in a moderate sized box, then all I
ask is a little something to cover my time and shipping.
I live just south of Terre Haute, IN, USA. If your interested in
anything, send me an email.
I would like to apologize for the length of this list. I did not realize
how much stuff there was 'til I put it in a list. I decided for now to
hold off on the Intel/PC related stuff.
Mike Thompson
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Convergent Technologies
Model CR-5100-A31
Some kind of Unix box
Contains:
68000 CPU board with 64K of 8Kx8 and parallel port
Memory expansion board with 2M of 256Kx1
20 channnel RS232 board with 20 9 pin D connectors
Micropolis 1325 70mb MFM hard drive
Also have a spare 10 channnel RS232 board with 10 9 pin D connectors
I am told that this is a working machine and was being used as a
print server.
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Wang components
The following are from a Wang machine, model is unknown
PM007 - PC Color Emulator board, has 15 pin D connector labeled 'Input'
and 9 pin D connector labeled 'Analog RGB'. Board measures 8x12.
PM009 - Medium Resolution Color Graphics board, has 8 pin DIN connector
labeled 'Analog RGB' & 6 pin modular connect labeled 'Local Keyboard'
Board measures 8X12
Micropolis 1325 70mb MFM hard drive.
Condition of these items is unknown.
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Motorola
Model VME/10 System
Contains:
1 ea MVME400 board
1 ea MVME201 boards
Micropolis 1304 43mb hard drive, may be bad.
Also have a monitor, but no video cable.
Believe the keyboard is around here somewhere.
Also have the following loose VME bus cards:
VME Module 01-W3471, circa 1987
contains: 68020, 68851, 4mb of 1Mx1; front panel has leds for
Fail, Halt, Run, Scon, push switches for Abort & Reset, and
a 25 pin D connector. Have 2 of these.
MVME147SC-1. circa 1990
CPU with around 8mb of RAM
MVME931-1
This is a wire wrap prototyping board
The next card is for the VME bus but is labeled Jupiter Technologies.
I suspect it came from a UGC box. It contains a 68000 and around
2mb of RAM, it is marked as being an 'IOP' card.
The last 2 cards were custom made by a local company and are probably
of no use to anybody. Listed here to more or less keep track.
Condition of all this is unknown.
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IBM
Model 5182
Personal Computer Color Printer
Parallel Interface, dot matrix
132 column
This works, but needs a new ribbon
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Hewlett Packard
Model 2631G
132 column dot matrix printer
This has a 24 pin connector similar to the 36 pin Centronics
connector. Does anybody know the interface on this one?
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Micropolis
Model 1325 70mb hard drive
This is a loose one, and condition is unknown
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DEC
MicroVax 2000
I have the case, boards and power supply. The RD54 was snatched up
by a subscriber just recently.
Also have a spare MS400 2mb board and this is unused still in
original box.
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DEC
DS200 Terminal Server - 4ea
DELNI - at least 6 ea
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Apple
Macintosh II
I have 4 machines, 3 are working, one is dead.
Of the working:
2 have 1 floppy drive, 1 has 2 floppy drives
they all have 40mb hard drives.
2 have Viking video cards with a Viking Monoterm monitor (are a little dim)
1 has an Apple video card with a Apple color monitor
Have keyboards and mice for all three.
Have complete (I think) manuals and disks for each machine.
One machine has Interleaf loaded on it.
I have a couple spare video cards & an external 20mb drive.
I have 1 set of Interleaf manuals and 2 sets of disks.
I believe the loaded with version 6 of the OS.
I would like to get a little something for these. I might be convinced
to ship components, but do not want to ship anything big, especially
the monitors.
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IBM
RT Model 135, Type 6150.
It has a 5 1/4 floppy, and two hard drives (100MB & 300MB),
plus the usual video and a network card. The monitor is a
Model/Type 5081-19, 19" color with RGB inputs.
I have a fairly complete set of manuals and disks for the machine.
The machine was working and is loaded with AIX 2.x.
I say was, as it was sitting in the garage when a tree was blown
over and crashed through the garage roof almost exactly where
the machine was. The only damage was from water, mostly running
down through the monitor. The CPU had some stuff on top of it
and I doubt that much if any water got into it. I have not tested
it since then and the insurance company has settled on it.
If you want to come pick it up, fine. I am willing to pull components
out of this and ship them. I hate to see things like the network
card go to waste. All I ask is a little something for my time and
trouble.
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DEC
The following cards were pulled from uVax II's and all machines were working
at the time they were removed from service. Since I am asking a little
for any card, I will guarantee them in that I will replace (where possbile)
or refund. If your interested in multiple cards, let me know, I can
probably work out a deal.
KA630-AA / M7606 - CPU Module, MicroVax II, 4 ea $15
MS630-BB / M7608 - 4 MB Memory Module, 1 ea $10
KDA50-Q / M7164 & M7165 - SDI Disk Interface, 1 set $20
DQ256 (Dilog) - SDI Interface, 1 ea $10
TSV05 / M7196 - Tape Controller, 1 ea $10
TQK70-SA / M7559 - TK70 Tape Controller, 1 ea $10
DELNA / M7513 - Expander Module, connects ext. RD50/RX50 to controller, 3 ea
$5
TQK50 / M7546 - TK50 Tape Interface, 2 ea $10
DHV11 / M3104 - 8 Line Async Multiplexer (quad height card), 1 ea $10
DZQ11 / M3106 - 4 Line Async Multiplexer (dual height card), 2 ea $10
M9404 / M9505 - Cable Connector, 3 sets of cards plus some cables, $5
END OF LIST
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