-----Original Message-----
From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Thursday, 7 January 1999 12:30
Subject: 53rd state was Re: Y2K
> Naw, you're not even close to being the 53rd state! We're going after
>Puerto Rico right now, the ten Canadian provinces are next, then Mexico.
>You guys are way down the list. It must be sad to realize that you follow
>even Mexico!
>
> Sorry, couldn't resist! :-)
There's a line there, ah what the heck.
Sad is not the word, relieved perhaps! :^)
I couldn't resist either. Mind you, looking at TV here,
or driving around any medium sized city, and seeing the
Kentucky Fried Chicken, McDonalds and Hungry Jacks (=Burger King)
outlets, and seeing all the kids roaming around in those silly baggy shorts
with their baseball caps on backwards, it's getting hard to tell the
difference.
At least we still speak real English, despite the school systems apparent
inability to teach kids to write and spell in it.........
Ahem, to get back on topic, I have a Circa 1989 Toshiba T1200 laptop that
has a
Puredata 8023 (assume Ethernet) card in the expansion slot.
There is nothing for this on the Puredata website, and my email to their
support on 30/12/98 has not been responded too (yet).
The card has an etch that reads
PDT8023 [R]
[C] 1989 Pure Data
Made in Canada
0060012002
The T in the ident suggests a special (Toshiba?) build.
The card has a single BNC socket and a switch marked 0 and 1,
which is probably a power on/off function.
There are three jumpers marked E1 E2 and E3. E2 has a shorting
bridge on it.
There is a bar coded sticker on the component side.
The sticker is damaged, looks like 002x1945
(digit marked by x is unreadable, possibly a 6 or an 8)
Several of the chips on the board have a date and a hex number on
a paper sticker on them. Listed below.
March 1990
800020000
March 1991
800019100
March 1991
800019702
March 1991
800019801
March 1991
800019900
I'm after some Netware drivers for it. (This is an XT laptop)
I've tried the NE1000 drivers to no avail.
I'm assuming it uses the IRQ (3) that is reserved for the internal modem.
Any help appreciated.
Cheers
Geoff Roberts
Computer Room Internet Cafe
Port Pirie
South Australia.
netcafe(a)pirie.mtx.net.au
Found on Usenet. Anyone near the U. of Iowa want to talk to this guy?
It sounds kind of beat up, but might make a good parts box.
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On Wed, 6 Jan 1999 15:17:30 -0600, in vmsnet.pdp-11 you wrote:
>>From: Brian Deitte <bdeitte(a)blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
>>Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
>>Subject: Clueless questions about a for sale PDP 11/73
>>Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 15:17:30 -0600
>>Organization: The University of Iowa
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>>Hello. I've been given a PDP 11/73 that was going to be thrown away.
>>I've searched for quite a few hours on the Web for resellers, and all I
>>could find was agora and auction-it.net. Any advice on a price range or
>>where to look for someone who wants one is appreciated.
>>
>>If you've read this far, I assume you're interested in some way, so here's
>>some extra information:
>>According to a a picture I saw somewhere, its a BA23 standing tower.
>>I found the following cards: M3106(2), M8017AA, M7546, M7555.
>>The front has a TK50 and a Micropolis "Disk Memory Unit" with a S/N
>>7074231037.
>>Some of pins on back are broken, and the power cord has been snipped, but
>>supposedly it worked at its former residence, although I don't even know
>>how to test it.
>>
>>Feel free to send by email if you feel this is irrelevant to this
>>newsgroup. Thanks, Brian.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho,
Blue Feather Technologies -- kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech [dot] com
Web: http://www.bluefeathertech.com
"...No matter how we may wish otherwise, our science can only describe an object,
event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot possibly define any of them..."
From: Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)aracnet.com>
<snippity>
Thanks Zane. Looks like I may get my first taste of rt-11. My boat's come
in.
- Mike: dogas(a)leading.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)aracnet.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Thursday, 7 January 1999 14:43
Subject: Re: Message formats
>Again, how typically American! I'm starting to hate American's to the
>point I'm looking for another country to move to, since I'm embarrased to
>say that I'm an American myself. Anyone know any good countries that I can
>move to, and not be embarassed to be associated with?
Come on down (under).
>The Internet is not an American only thing!
No it isn't. I accept that the original concept and the early development
work
took place in the US. The growth of the net has made it a global
phenomenon,
though the spam is nearly all American in origin!
>
>I'd like to point out a few things, my reaction to a message that was about
>%30 HTML caused this thread to spring into being. I'm using a e-mail
>client that can handle it without any problem, I've also got a dedicated
>384k line, so bandwidth isn't a problem for me
Lucky boy. That sort of bandwidth is way out of reach of most people in
this country.
A typical home user would probably have a 28.8 or 33.6k modem, with a few
56k's
thrown in. 56k doesn't always work well, heck I'm using a 56k USR modem,
but
it won't connect to my ISP faster than 33.6k, even though the ISP supports
it.
Phone line quality most likely. ISDN is available, but it's timed by the
second,
and frightfully expensive to install, so most ISP's won't allow a dial on
demand,
they will only do ISDN for a permanent connection. Change ISP's did I hear
you
say? There are only 2 here. We are in the country ~100 miles from
Adelaide,
plenty more there, but it's 50c a minute for a long distance call during the
day,
and it's not a lot different there
Since a permanent 33.6k modem line (like this one) costs around $290 a
month,
and a commercial 64k ISDN permanent is around $1000 a month, you don't see
a lot of users on it yet.....
Oh yes, our local phone calls are not timed (yet - they keep threatening -
mostly
because of net users) but the backlash from consumers is keeping them on the
back foot - for now. They are not, however, free, it's 30c a call, though a
local call
in Australia can cover a sizeable area depending what area code you are in.
The 08 area code covers the entire state of SA, which is roughly 5 or 6
times
the area of the UK. Local calls are roughly a 50 mile radius of the place
you call from.
Cheers
Geoff Roberts
Computer Room Internet Cafe
Port Pirie
South Australia.
netcafe(a)pirie.mtx.net.au
From: Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)aracnet.com>
<snip>
Thanks Zane...
Being pdp experience deficient, I appreciate the info. I have a 11/93 that
I haven't been able to get working yet... I'm looking forward to my first
rt-11 experience.
- Mike: dogas(a)leading.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Miles O'Neal <meo(a)netads.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Thursday, 7 January 1999 14:08
Subject: Re: Message formats
>Max Eskin said...
>|
>|TVs require licenses in the UK? What about if you buy a CRT and make your
>|own?
>
>It's illegal, of course.
>
>Ifthey don't catch you, there's no license fee.
>
>If they catch you, you're sent to Australia.
>
>Talk about a win-win situation!
For who? We quit taking POME years ago.
We still get pom immigrants though......;^)
Cheeers
Geoff
Computer Room Internet Cafe
Port Pirie
South Australia.
netcafe(a)pirie.mtx.net.au
At 05:02 PM 1/6/99 -0800, Sam wrote:
>I've also been told by some credit card company call center reps that they
>couldn't do something or other for me because the "computer wouldn't let
>them".
Don't you know a brush-off when you hear it? Employees LOVE to blame
things on the computer!
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: Barry A. Watzman <Watzman(a)ibm.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Wednesday, 6 January 1999 14:42
Subject: Y2K
>The problem arises simply because people (programmers included) normally
write dates in the format >"mm/dd/yy", as in 12/31/99. Not just in computer
programs, but in normal, day-to-day lives. It's that simple, >and that is
all that there is to it.
Only if you live in America. Much of the world (like here, or the UK, New
Zealand etc)
use dd/mm/yy in their "normal, day-to-day lives."
I have personally had numerous headaches with software written (mostly) in
the USA where
this unwarranted assumption on date useage is hard coded into the damn
software.
Accounting packages are prime offenders. So is a well known DOS based Fax
program.
This usually results in users moving to a package that does not make silly
assumptions
about date useage outside America. I know there are 250+ million of you,
but we're not
the 53rd state. (Yet anyway) We "ain't gonna" change the way WE do things
here.
It would make our lives a lot easier if such things were an option, some
authors get it
right, and allow it to be a config option, sadly, lots don't.
Oh, and our financial year is from 1 July to 30 June, not 1 January to 31
December.
Had that trouble as well. Grrrr.
Cheers
Geoff Roberts
Computer Room Internet Cafe
Port Pirie
South Australia.
netcafe(a)pirie.mtx.net.au
In a message dated 1/6/99 8:26:02 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
rigdonj(a)intellistar.net writes:
> >I've also been told by some credit card company call center reps that they
> >couldn't do something or other for me because the "computer wouldn't let
> >them".
>
> Don't you know a brush-off when you hear it? Employees LOVE to blame
> things on the computer!
it's not a brush off, really. in my helpdesk job, computer applications we use
wont do certain things unless required info is present or in right format.
sure, there are stupid operators, but the computer sometimes is at fault too.
Hi folks,
I have a chance to pick up some SMS Q-bus systems that were being used as a
security entry system. I dont know anything about them and assume (because
of the Q-bus moniker) these to be uPDP equivilents. The apparently two
computers are in a 19' rack system. I haven't and won't see them until
Saturday so that's all the info so far... Please help, anybody know these
systems?
Thanks
- Mike: dogas(a)leading.net
