> From: Al Kossow
> Date: Mon Aug 9 14:05:07 CDT 2021
Wow! That was _amazing_ speed, to get that uploaded so quickly (even if you
had already scanned it in), considering I only posted my request at 14:32 EDT!
Thank you very, very much: that allowed me to complete the DQ11 page on the
CHWiki:
https://gunkies.org/wiki/DQ11_NPR_Synchronous_Line_Interface
The MM was unclear on many points (including the backplanes; the MM says, in
2.3.1.2, "double-system unit", making it sound like the option version uses a
9-slot backplane, but it's actually two 4-slot units).
You aren't by any chance sitting any DM11-AA manuals, are you? :-)
(The weirdest interface I've ever seen; the shift registers are kept in main
memory, resulting in many DMA cycles _per character_.)
Noel
I have tried to reach You Raymond.
Presumably You have following tape images:
Sys V/68 Graphic Services Extension R3V6 XW02.10(IR06)
Sys V/88 R3.2V1.2C BOS Obj UZ88.01
We are trying to build a X environment with some success already for Motorola MVME unix computers.
These tapes could help.
Can You comment on this (privately).
BR
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> On Aug 5, 2021, at 8:39 AM, Jay Jaeger via cctech
<cctech at classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I know Paul well (we were contemporaries at U. WI). He does not
do that very often. He did not indicate any issue with a fire at the
building that contains his collection when I last spoke with him.
>
> He does not actually read "blocks". He reads the tape in an
*analog* fashion, and then processes the results with software. That
is how he recovered the IBM 1410 system tapes and diagnostics, for example.
>
> To be honest, I doubt that this content would be such that he
would be likely to volunteer.
Some years ago, inspired by Paul Pierce's earlier program in Java, I
wrote similar software in C to decode the analog waveforms from tapes
in a variety of formats: 7-track NRZI, 9-track NRZI, PE, and 6250 BPI
GCR, and 6-track NRZI for Whirlwind.
https://github.com/LenShustek/readtape
As a one-time physics major, I *am* interested in the Schoonschip
content. I've offered to James Liu to give it a go if he can't get
someone like Chuck to read it in a more straightforward fashion.
It will be at the CHM. The museum is still closed but VCF will be happening. To be consistent with current Santa Clara covid conditions, bring your mask.
see: https://vcfed.org/wp/festivals/vintage-computer-festival-west/
I hope to see you all there.
Dwight
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Thanks for feedback and offers to assist. I received the tape from
one of the maintainers of Schoonship at CERN, and it was probably made
around 1978 at SLAC.
For some background, Tini Veltman developed Schoonship in the 1960's
at CERN on the CDC 6600. My understanding is that he more or less
insisted on coding in assembly since he thought FORTRAN or other high
level languages would just get in the way and slow things down. The
code was maintained by Veltman and Strubbe well into the 1970's, but
its future was held back by being so closely tied to CDC hardware.
In the mid 1970's, Strubbe began a conversion of Schoonschip to IBM
S/360 and S/370. It was sort of a curious technique, as far as I
gathered. The idea was to first translate CDC COMPASS source to an
intermediate PL/I like language. But then, instead of using the IBM
PL/I compiler, a bunch of macros were developed to implement the PL/I
like language in IBM assembly. This conversion was never fully
completed for reasons unknown to me.
Later on, when Tini joined the University of Michigan (that's where
I'm located), he realized that Schoonschip needed to be updated. But
the update was ... instead of CDC assembly he decided on m68k
assembly. (At this time, in the early 1980's, C probably would have
been the natural language of choice.) Moreover, he insisted on
developing his own toolchain (assembler, linker, etc). This was
before my time at Michigan, but basically he ported Schoonschip to
just about all the m68k machines of that era (Sun, Atari, Amiga, Mac,
NeXT, and others I am not familiar with). We have a pretty good
collection of m68k code
(http://www-personal.umich.edu/~williams/Vsys/index.html), but nothing
earlier.
Getting back to the tape, I'm pretty sure it has Strubbe's PL/I like
code as it is an archive of the PL/I conversion. It may also have CDC
source, but that is less obvious until we can see the contents. The
CDC source is historically the most relevant, and I am hoping it
exists on the tape.
- jim
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Hi folks,
Does anyone happen to have any links for XENIX on a Tandy 2000?
Cheers,
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Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK's biggest private home computer collection?
t: @binarydinosaurs f: facebook.com/binarydinosaurs
w: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk
A number of the prior systems were picked up or other arrangements made, and
a couple more pulled from storage to make room. As before, these are FREE
TO A GOOD HOME but you have to come PICK UP from various locations in the
Riverside-San Bernardino, CA region. Contact me privately if interested.
These remaining machines and peripherals will go to the scrapper on August 14
if not otherwise claimed.
NOT WORKING:
Network General Sniffer (Compaq 486 portable). Should "just work" with a
new power supply, but I don't have any time to deal with it anymore and
Wireshark has made it generally obsolete for what I used to use it for.
NOT WORKING:
Macintosh DuoDock, with key. Doesn't feed; this is usually a capacitor
problem. A bit yellowed but otherwise physically intact. I use a different
dock with my 2300 so I don't really need this either.
PARTIALLY WORKING:
500MHz iBook G3 laptop (snow, not colour) M6497 with tray loader optical
drive and power supply. Does boot OS X, but needs a new LCD backlight (mini
VGA port works and you can see the display in bright light) and battery is
of course toast. Otherwise physically intact except that ex-bro-in-law put
grotty stickers on it.
PARTIALLY WORKING:
Sawtooth Power Mac G4 450MHz. No RAM, no video card, no hard disk. Used to
be my file server but had issues with one of the PCI slots. Has optical drive
and ZIP with matching Apple bezels. Does power on, but obviously without RAM
or a video card (AGP) will not pass POST. Add your own USB keyboard and mouse.
Various other items:
Apple II Super Serial card with DB-25 670-0020-? (uses 6551 ACIA) and
Apple IIe 80 column 64K memory expansion 607-0103-K. Can't test them but
both look intact.
Kurta Penmouse. Serial and PS/2 connectors. Seems to have a power supply
jack (9V) but I don't have the power supply and I don't know if it needs
it. Can't test it, no drivers, physically intact.
Sun model 411 SCSI CD-ROM. Requires caddy. Won't mount discs, might need a
recap.
UMAX Astra 2100U flatbed USB scanner with power supply. Powers on. Works
with classic Mac OS but probably most systems. No driver disc.
Pair of Telular SX5 GSM terminals. These were the server room's backup
communication system. They work, but no GSM network to connect to anymore.
Might be fun if you set one up. Real serial ports! Real GSM modem! Full
kits with power supply.
Visual UpTime Select T1 CSU/DSU. Has a Cisco V.35 cable connected and
jacks for Ethernet, serial, DSX-1 and T1. Powers on, obviously goes
right into Red Alarm since there's no network. You telco nerds will love it.
Samsung 17" SyncMaster CRT. Works fine, great shape, just too big to keep
around anymore.
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FANUC A860-0056-T020 Papertape Reader and DOSTEK 440A BTR
https://www.ebay.com/itm/274883740917
Ebay listing includes my project notes. Hopefully someone here will want
it.
Bill