> I just received an Apple IIgs with some cool cards and I'm looking
Nice one....
> Battery which seems to go to a small card attached between the
> PSU and slot 1. I think this keeps power to the Ram.
It does - I got one with my hoard of Apple stuff but left it in the damaged
car since the contacts etc had all but rotted away. Future restoration job
there I think.
I just received an Apple IIgs with some cool cards and I'm looking
to see if anyone has doc or software for these. The machine is a:
Apple IIgs Rom 3 (But with a Woz signed case)
Apple IIgs Memory Expansion (1 meg)
Transwarp GS
Apple II Video Overlay Card (This was the main card I wanted!!)
Applied Engineering RamKeeper
Battery which seems to go to a small card attached between the
PSU and slot 1. I think this keeps power to the Ram.
2 3.5" drives
2 5.25" drives
Keyboard & mouse
ImageWriter II Printer
But no doc or software for any of it. I'm interested in anything
people can tell/send me on the Video Overlay Card mainly but also
the Transwarp GS and the RamKeeper.
Thanks in advance.
-----
David Williams - Computer Packrat
dlw(a)trailingedge.com
http://www.trailingedge.com
> As to requirements, I'm not sure what Squeak needs. I do also have
> it on the IIci, and it's happy with ther Radius Rocket. I just don't
> run the IIci without the rocket very often.
Ah - OK then!
> Dangerous upgrade device, the Radius Rocket. It draws power thru
> the NuBus connector, and IIRC, out of the NuBus spec. They shoulda
> added a separate power connector... I full expect my IIci to go
> up in smoke some day.
*grin*. If I get one for the museum I'll not power it up too often then....
> Dammit - I was offered a Mac IIfx last week but didn't get to it fast
enough
> - he only wanted ukp25 for it which was fine by me. To run it on a IIci
> would I need to get a proper video card in order to free up some system
RAM?
> The other Macs I've got are Plus, Classic, Classic II, Colour Classic, II,
> IIci, and LC2. Next week I might be getting a Performa 475 but aren't they
> the same machine as the LC2?
AKAIK, yes, they are basically the same.
As to requirements, I'm not sure what Squeak needs. I do also have
it on the IIci, and it's happy with ther Radius Rocket. I just don't
run the IIci without the rocket very often.
Dangerous upgrade device, the Radius Rocket. It draws power thru
the NuBus connector, and IIRC, out of the NuBus spec. They shoulda
added a separate power connector... I full expect my IIci to go
up in smoke some day.
-dq
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Douglas Quebbeman [mailto:dhquebbeman@theestopinalgroup.com]
> > Sent: 14 July 2000 15:15
> > To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'
> > Subject: RE: Another tech legend for discussion!
> >
> >
> > > I've seen a document that described SmallTalk and thought
> > it still looks
> > > better than anything I've seen up to now; I think you're
> > right about the
> > > Star though, from what I remember of the Horn/Raskin
> > discussion. I knew
> > > Bruce Horn he was one of the SmallTalk developers though,
> > dunno why I
> > didn't
> > > mention it.
> >
> > Although I run Squeak under Windows and on a Power Mac, I
> still prefer
> > running the original Xerox Smalltalk-80 VI2.2 under System
> 6 on a Mac.
> > I have it on a IIci, but the IIci has a Radius Rocket in it, and the
> > virtual machine doesn't like its 68040. I have a Mac IIfx
> > I'll be running
> > it on in the near future, at almost twice the speed of the
> > IIci's '030.
> >
> > I'll have to run the benchmarks, but I think it runs at 0.5 Dolphin.
> >
> > -dq
> >
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Douglas Quebbeman
> [mailto:dhquebbeman@theestopinalgroup.com]
> > > > Sent: 14
> July 2000 13:58
> > > > To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'
> > > > Subject: RE: Another tech legend for discussion!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have it on good authority that Smalltalk-80 was not ported
> > > > to the Star.
> > > > It was running on the Alto and the Dolphin at the time, as
> > > > well as another
> > > > Xerox workstation whose name I can't recall. Larry Teslar was
> > > > working at
> > > > PARC at the time, and ended up following Jobs back to
> > Apple, because
> > > > Xerox couldn't get their asses in gear and Apple looked
> > like it knew
> > > > what it was doing (w/r/t getting new technology out the door).
> > > >
> > > > For those interested in what Smalltalk-80 feels like to
> > > play with, you
> > > > should try Squeak, a successor developed by some of
> Smalltalk-80's
> > > > authors, Alan Kay and Dan Ingalls, at Disney. Squeak is
> everything
> > > > ST80 was and more.
> > > >
> > > > You can find info about Squeak at:
> > http://www.create.ucsb.edu/squeak/
> >
>
Sure.... how about an MAI/Basic Four system... or were they mainframes?
-dq
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Robertson [mailto:steverob@hotoffice.com]
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 10:16 AM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: Unresistable pond comment
> > There's just one thing wrong with that idea: it would be extremely
> > cruel to the plants and creatures living in the pond.
> Would you want
> > to be a plant, fish or frog and have a politician plopped into your
> > pond?
>
>
> The only time I think this would be a truly good idea is when the
> pond happened to be stocked with Pirahna.
>
Or... 14 feet deep :-)
To keep this on topic, perhaps we should use an old mini instead of
concrete. Any nominations?
Steve Robertson <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>
Dammit - I was offered a Mac IIfx last week but didn't get to it fast enough
- he only wanted ukp25 for it which was fine by me. To run it on a IIci
would I need to get a proper video card in order to free up some system RAM?
The other Macs I've got are Plus, Classic, Classic II, Colour Classic, II,
IIci, and LC2. Next week I might be getting a Performa 475 but aren't they
the same machine as the LC2?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Douglas Quebbeman [mailto:dhquebbeman@theestopinalgroup.com]
> Sent: 14 July 2000 15:15
> To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'
> Subject: RE: Another tech legend for discussion!
>
>
> > I've seen a document that described SmallTalk and thought
> it still looks
> > better than anything I've seen up to now; I think you're
> right about the
> > Star though, from what I remember of the Horn/Raskin
> discussion. I knew
> > Bruce Horn he was one of the SmallTalk developers though,
> dunno why I
> didn't
> > mention it.
>
> Although I run Squeak under Windows and on a Power Mac, I still prefer
> running the original Xerox Smalltalk-80 VI2.2 under System 6 on a Mac.
> I have it on a IIci, but the IIci has a Radius Rocket in it, and the
> virtual machine doesn't like its 68040. I have a Mac IIfx
> I'll be running
> it on in the near future, at almost twice the speed of the
> IIci's '030.
>
> I'll have to run the benchmarks, but I think it runs at 0.5 Dolphin.
>
> -dq
>
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Douglas Quebbeman [mailto:dhquebbeman@theestopinalgroup.com]
> > > Sent: 14 July 2000 13:58
> > > To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'
> > > Subject: RE: Another tech legend for discussion!
> > >
> > >
> > > I have it on good authority that Smalltalk-80 was not ported
> > > to the Star.
> > > It was running on the Alto and the Dolphin at the time, as
> > > well as another
> > > Xerox workstation whose name I can't recall. Larry Teslar was
> > > working at
> > > PARC at the time, and ended up following Jobs back to
> Apple, because
> > > Xerox couldn't get their asses in gear and Apple looked
> like it knew
> > > what it was doing (w/r/t getting new technology out the door).
> > >
> > > For those interested in what Smalltalk-80 feels like to
> > play with, you
> > > should try Squeak, a successor developed by some of Smalltalk-80's
> > > authors, Alan Kay and Dan Ingalls, at Disney. Squeak is everything
> > > ST80 was and more.
> > >
> > > You can find info about Squeak at:
> http://www.create.ucsb.edu/squeak/
>
> Some things going to the MIT Electronics
> Flea Market this Sunday.
>
> One of the "smaller" SMD drives.
Is this one of the old CDC removable-pack units?
-dq
> > There's just one thing wrong with that idea: it would be extremely
> > cruel to the plants and creatures living in the pond.
> Would you want
> > to be a plant, fish or frog and have a politician plopped into your
> > pond?
>
>
> The only time I think this would be a truly good idea is when the
> pond happened to be stocked with Pirahna.
>
Or... 14 feet deep :-)
To keep this on topic, perhaps we should use an old mini instead of
concrete. Any nominations?
Steve Robertson <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>
Ok,
I have placed the Intel 8080 Macro [Cross] Assembler, the Interp-80
Simulator, and the PLM-80 Compiler in my web storage area. I've placed
a tiny page at:
http://members.iglou.com/dougq/8080/xmcs80.html
>from which you can download the source files.
As these filename extensions imply, these programs are Fortran-IV
(some call it Fortran 66) source code. The files are in ASCII
with CR & LF line termination. The MAC80 source still includes
its program sequence numbers in columns 72-80; the other files
no longer have the sequence numbers; I'm not sure how that came
to be, whether I never had copies with sequence numbers, or if
I stripped them to make them wasier to work with on slow serial
connections.
They may display incorrectly in your browser unless you add a
MIME filetype for .FTN files that's otherwise identical to .TXT
files. For IE user, just right-click on each link on the page
and select "Save target as..." and save to your favorite location.
After examining them, these do not appear to have the extensions
I recall adding (although there are some non-standard changes to
MAC80), so they may well not have the bugfixes either. The copies
I worked most closely with were the CDC6600 and DEC-10 ports. I
should have those, but they're trapped on CDC 9-track tapes, and
I haven't yet remembered how to use Prime's MAGNET program to
read them successfully.
Feel free to download the code. It's copyrighted by Intel, but
I intend on asking Teresa Knezek to add them to the Abandonware
list, and to contact Intel for permission to make them freely
available under hobbyist license. Grab now, if I get a cease-
and-desist letter, I'll have to pull them off immediately.
regards,
-doug quebbeman
