From: dwight <dkelvey at hotmail.com>
> If we'd thought about it we could count to 1023 on our fingers.
I used to play string bass in a symphony, and there were many times that
there would be long periods of rest, where it was important to count the
bars (measures) going by so as to come back in at the right time. To this
day (that was 40+ years ago) I can still count quite rapidly up to 31 on one
hand (either one). Higher numbers slow me down a bit...
Old bass joke: During the last movement of Beethoven's 9th symphony, there
is a very long tacit (rest) for the basses. So the bass section all went
over to the bar across the street for a drink or three. To keep the
conductor from passing by their entry, they put a rubber band around his
music. So the situation was... Bottom of the ninth, basses loaded, score
tied. (sorry...)
~~
Mark Moulding
Greetings
I recently purchased a QCS external hard disk on ebay. This was one of the
companies that was selling DEC Rainbow hard drives. I had hoped it was an
old Rainbow drive with interesting to me bits... Turns out it is an Epson
QX-10 hard drive, full of interesting to bits for the QX-10 CP/M
enthusiast. I've had trouble finding a suitable community to note this in
should there be people around that care... so I thought I'd ask here is
people know of good CP/M groups and/or QX-10/16 groups, mailing lists, irc
channels, discord servers, etc I could find.
Warner
> From: Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com>
> Numbering of bits in a word is also interesting. Is the high order bit
> in a 64 bit word, bit 0 or bit 63? Both conventions have been employed.
This one has always boggled me, because it's the one aspect of the
Endian Wars where there's a simple, straightforward answer grounded in
basic mathematics - base ^ digit-number only gives the correct
place-value when the lowest-order bit is numbered zero. It's beyond my
ken how anybody thought the reverse was *valid,* let alone a good
idea.
Australian HP museum site... yes kudos to them!? What wonderful work they have done and some of the friendliest? peple around!
Even though I pull a copy down from there. If it is,for something we have in the collection? I also try to get original manuals too..
On Sunday, January 31, 2021 Tony Duell <ard.p850ug1 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 6:25 AM Frank McConnell via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> On Jan 30, 2021, at 10:09, ED SHARPE via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > Hi Doug! No, we do not have a copy of this HP JOURNAL.? We do not have manuals? either.? We,are lucky to have the unit wonder if you can still order ink for the printer. I do have an unopened ink cartrige.
You can get scans of the manuals from the Australian HP museum site
Do you have any expansion boards in it? Extra memory is very useful
(and you can turn any of the boards into a 1MByte one by adding the
chips and changing links). As is an RS232 interface (something that
IMHO should have been built-in)
Do NOT leave the ink cartridge in the machine. The ink is somewhat
corrosive and if it leaks onto the flexiprint that connects the
cartridge to the logic PCB it will damage it. Due to the layout of the
machine the flexiprint is longer than the one in a normal Thinkjet so
you can't just raid one of those for spares. Yes there is a way to
kludge it with ribbon cable and connectors but it's best not to have
the problem in the first place.
>
> HP 51604A.? I was surprised a few months ago to find that Staples claims to be able to sell new HP cartridges.? Looking earlier today, HP can too!
>
> Seriously, we?re talking about ink cartridges including replacement print heads for printers manufactured in 1983.
I was equally surprised to find that ink ribbons for the Epson HX20
laptop (M160 printer mechanism) along with the ones for the narrower
M150 mechanism are still being made.
But as I've said before, I'd rather find parts for a machine made 30
years ago than one made 5 years ago.
-tony
> From: Tom Uban
> The part numbers are:
. A106239-ND, TE Connectivity AMP Connectors 1-171196-0, CONN PLUG 6POS MATE-N-LOK NATRL
> A1427-ND, TE Connectivity AMP Connectors 1-480323-0, CONN PLUG 15 POS MATE-N-LOK
> See attached picture
That didn't come through for people on the list; I have posted it here:
http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/pdp11/jpg/tmp/dec_connectors.jpg
so everyone can see his connectors.
> Looking at the TE.com catalog, the picture for 1-480273-0 does not match
> my DD11-DF connector
Actually, the 1-480273-0 is _exactly_ the unit DEC used; I looked at the power
distribution panel from a BA11-K, and that's what it uses. (I'm too burned out
to look at the engineering drawings and get the part number to confirm; I'll
do that 'soon'.)
I took a picture of the male shells, and added it to the CHWiki page (I'll add
the females tomorrow). The detail of the 6-pin one didn't show up too well, so
I took another closeup of just it, here:
https://gunkies.org/wiki/File:DECPwrConnMaleSml.jpg
Your 15-pin is the same as mine (the part number matches). Your 6-pin has
'wings' on the side (these prevent it pulling through when placed in a hole in
sheet metal); the 6-pin DEC used has little right-angle arms, just like the
ones on the 15-pin, to brace it in place.
They are compatible, though, I think; a female shell that will take one
probably will take the other.
Noel
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 9:01 AM ED SHARPE via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral? computers were sold.??
>
> We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it for.??
>
> Of course we are looking for any advertising material, posters or anyting visually related to this computer to make the display "more than just a computer on the table"?
>
> Please let us know if you have any material that would fit this need!??
>
> Thank you very much in advance
> Ed Sharpe - Archivist?? for SMECC
As to the number sold, you should be able to get a sense of it by collecting serial numbers from those who have them - once you get enough of them (maybe 20 or so) you should get a sense of about where the numbering started and where it ended. I have two units and if you're interested I can pull the numbers and send them along.
At 06:01 PM 1/30/2021, you wrote:
>>>Which Henry was that?? Henry Spencer perhaps?
>>Yes, Henry Spencer (formerly of zoo.toronto.edu).
>>N.
>
>Another blast from the past. I haven't seen anything of or spoken with him in nearly 30 years.
A legend, indeed, and one that only makes me upset about Google's Usenet archive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Spencerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Groups
Couldn't Google just give someone else a copy of what Spencer
(and everyone else) gave them?
- John
Wayne.. yes please send the 2? serial numbers and others are invited to participate also.
Probably good idea to send offlist? to kerp from clogging lister.? Thanks Ed#
On Sunday, January 31, 2021 Smith, Wayne via cctalk <Wayne.Smith at warnerbros.com; cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 9:01 AM ED SHARPE via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral? computers were sold.??
>
> We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it for.??
>
> Of course we are looking for any advertising material, posters or anyting visually related to this computer to make the display "more than just a computer on the table"?
>
> Please let us know if you have any material that would fit this need!??
>
> Thank you very much in advance
> Ed Sharpe - Archivist?? for SMECC
As to the number sold, you should be able to get a sense of it by collecting serial numbers from those who have them - once you get enough of them (maybe 20 or so) you should get a sense of about where the numbering started and where it ended.? I have two units and if you're interested I can pull the numbers and send them along.